[wudda1955]

You know, the announcement they play at the beginning and when the band returns from break? It used to be a man telling us to watch our grandchildren and reminding us that there is no smoking, etc. When we were at Brownwood the other day, the recording was a woman. Not only were we reminded of the same stuff, but there was a blurb added at the end about not saving chairs.

Now, they didn't say you couldn't do it, she just said something to the effect of "out of respect for everyone we ask that you please not reserve seats." Not perfect, but we're making progress!

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by wudda1955

You know, the announcement they play at the beginning and when the band returns from break? It used to be a man telling us to watch our grandchildren and reminding us that there is no smoking, etc. When we were at Brownwood the other day, the recording was a woman. Not only were we reminded of the same stuff, but there was a blurb added at the end about not saving chairs.

Now, they didn't say you couldn't do it, she just said something to the effect of "out of respect for everyone we ask that you please not reserve seats." Not perfect, but we're making progress!

And as usual, the considerate, well-mannered people will not hog seats by roping them off for hours in advance, and the brazen, obnoxious ones will rope off as many as they please.

I don't know why they put the chairs out hours in advance. It's a magnet for the inconsiderate vultures.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

And as usual, the considerate, well-mannered people will not hog seats by roping them off for hours in advance, and the brazen, obnoxious ones will rope off as many as they please.

I don't know why they put the chairs out hours in advance. It's a magnet for the inconsiderate vultures.

I have been assured that the meek will inherit the earth but it appears they won't have a seat to sit and savor it.

[Loudoll]

Progress!

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by Loudoll

Progress!

At least someone is acknowledging there is a problem. Step one; identify problem.

[redwitch]

Sadly, not progress. This is close to the recording used at LSL and SS for many years, back when staff actually would remove ropes, etc. saving seats, except the old message was a bit more forceful. This sounds like a pretend to do something but really do nothing to me. Kind of like telling a kid, "I'll tell you later, " in the hopes the kid will be quiet and the adults can carry on.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I have been assured that the meek will inherit the earth but it appears they won't have a seat to sit and savor it.

Good one Gracie

[Cedwards38]

Hooray!
It's nice.
But it's not enough.
Sounds like someone trying to protect themselves from a lawsuit to me.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

Hooray!
It's nice.
But it's not enough.
Sounds like someone trying to protect themselves from a lawsuit to me.

You are such a good person. But I need to keep reminding you that in a public place only so much can be done about directing people to do things.

Think about the line cutters at Disney. What can or is done about them?

It isn't the management that is at fault, it is the rude, selfish and uncaring people who do this. There is NO law that can be made, only directions given which even if there were flashing signs, there would be those who think...naw....they can't do nuthin' to me.

The world is changing. And I don't like it. I am pleased that nice people like you want to do what is right, but sometimes, there are no viable solutions to this kind of problem.

[2BNTV]

Unfortunately, the only time someone listens, is when you hit them, in their wallet!!!

I'll bet if these rude and obnoxious people were hit with a $500 fine, they would stop saving seats!!!

[Taltarzac725]

Saving Seats at the Pool: OK or Not OK? - ABC News

Dawn to dusk seat savers! The 40 minute rule. Sounds like a good one.

[Topspinmo]

IMO 40 mins too long, maybe 15. Mins. IMO if you gone longer than that you are out of that seat.

[Cedwards38]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You are such a good person. But I need to keep reminding you that in a public place only so much can be done about directing people to do things.

Think about the line cutters at Disney. What can or is done about them?

It isn't the management that is at fault, it is the rude, selfish and uncaring people who do this. There is NO law that can be made, only directions given which even if there were flashing signs, there would be those who think...naw....they can't do nuthin' to me.

The world is changing. And I don't like it. I am pleased that nice people like you want to do what is right, but sometimes, there are no viable solutions to this kind of problem.

Gracie, I wish I were as nice, kind, thoughtful, and even as good hearted as you. If so, I'd be a better person. I really admire the way you always advocate for positive solutions, and I agree with your opinion of The Villages in general. It's a great place to live and has few real problems.

I understand exactly what you are saying, but my point is that a civil jury may not agree with you, or with the management at the entertainment venues. I'm not worried about the selfish practice of saving seats hurting someone. I'm worried about someone getting hurt because of an incident caused by the saving of seats. One surly drunk pushes one arthritic senior to the concrete and BOOM. If that happens, you can rest assured that an aggrieved party will take that action to court to try to secure damages from whomever a jury deems to be at fault. And a jury may determine that knowing that the potential for a problem exists, and doing little to correct that situation is grounds for damages to be awarded. Damages have been awarded for far less.

Now I'm betting that if the Entertainment Division and the merchants at the various venues asked for the applicable sheriff's departments to assist with the enforcement of the current rule, in order to ensure a safe environment, they would. Wouldn't cost them a dime, and I think that fixes it. Even if the sheriff says no, they've got a stronger case in court.

I'm very happy that they are now announcing the rule!

[kstew43]

Think about the school crossings and the amount of police presence they have at there disposal.

If indeed the squares are public and not owned by the developer....why can't something like that be used to protect citizens.

Just an idea.

[memason]

I've been reading about this seat saving stuff on here for about 5 years. It's the perennial topic, like dog poop and round-a-bouts. It normally coincidences with the "season", when there are more folks in the squares. I love it when I go to the square and it's packed with people having a good time. Anytime I take visitors there, I'm always hoping for that situation, so they see we're living in a vibrant, active community.

Like most things around here, it's not nearly the problem some would have us believe. On evenings where there is a very popular band or when there are other celebrations, people do save seats. Always have; always will. I don't think the folks doing it are necessarily rude, but just think; When in Rome....

That's just the way it is in The Villages.