A sad testimony to the youth and lack of core understanding of what America was/is:

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Is it any wonder our beloved America is unraveling?

No continuity of the past. The real American foundation is fast disappearing.

This is a real indicator why it is so easy to have a special interest group attack and succede at removing symbols of our past.

Of course politician, the media and the special interest groups are keenly aware of this disparity in our country and do in fact exploit it.

What a loos for the future generations and what being an American really meant (past tense deliberately used!).

Those "people on the street" videos mean nothing. You remember Jay Walking with Jay Leno? People gave stupid answers just in order to get their clip on television. Same thing with this tripe. Also, look at the source. It means nothing.

Sad indeed. This is majority of the youth today. A good indication that schools and parents are failing to teach American history. Adios America

When I sw the gay rainbow flagged being raised by the shirtless young men in their representation of the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, I had seen enough.

Some not only do not understand, but do not deserve to live here.

If they knew even a little about this country, they would know the immense self sacrifice made to insure our countries survival and would understand the true meaning behind the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima

It's almost scary that people keep referencing Alex Jones. Get a brain Morans.[emoji6]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

It's almost scary that people keep referencing Alex Jones. Get a brain Morans.[emoji6]

If you are going to call people names because you do not like what they read, instead of attacking the subject matter, might I suggest that you either learn to spell or type.

I assume you were calling this person a "moron". There must be a spell check for those who indulge in this kind of stuff, or maybe, you could begin a "Spell check for insulting others". Heck, on here you have any number of built in customers.

Originally Posted by Guest

Those "people on the street" videos mean nothing. You remember Jay Walking with Jay Leno? People gave stupid answers just in order to get their clip on television. Same thing with this tripe. Also, look at the source. It means nothing.

THat is your opinion and you just keep telling yourself that.

How many young people are you around on a daily basis?

Do you know any teachers? Do you know them well enough for them to tell you what it is in history they are not allowed to teach or discuss? That was in fact history for most of us.

If you don't think the moral values of this country have changed in the last 50 years you are not awake to reality.
If you think the integrity of the fabric of America that made America great is not frayed you are not awake.
If you think it was OK for the gay pride fools to make a rainbow flag and desecrate the flag raising of Iwo Jima then you are one of them and there is no sense continuing the discussion.
There are those things of historical significance that are not to be re-defined and recast by today's permissive, no rules, anything goes attitudes.....whetner the minority groups athe minorities or special interest groups like it or not.

The majority in this country has allowed the politicians and special interest groups to tear down far too much of what we all know as heritage.
The best example? The recent confederate flag circus. Like it or not it was a signiificant part of our history. Like it or not it did not represent what some blacks and special interest wackos and politicians would have us think.
Anyway.....as a result it is gone. The few have made it into something to be ashamed of for reasons that suited their agenda....that had nothing to do with the average southerner, that did not own slaves, but were willing to give their lives for thflag that represented who they were and what they wanted. NOT A SYMBOL OF RACISM as re-defined by those today who are intent on tearing down our core values.

Not until something that is changed that affects the average American personally will the majority do anything about it....UNFORTUNATELY!

Maybe ANY attempts to re-define what the American flag represents will be the catalyst that gets we the people off their couches and the remotes out of their hands and get back to getting the majority back to where it belongs.....if it is not too late.

Yes, the youth of America is changing and far too many have no idea of what it cost America to get to it's greatness. What a terible legacy for the real America....and shame on the silent majority for allowing it to get this far.

Originally Posted by Guest

When I sw the gay rainbow flagged being raised by the shirtless young men in their representation of the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, I had seen enough.

Some not only do not understand, but do not deserve to live here.

If they knew even a little about this country, they would know the immense self sacrifice made to insure our countries survival and would understand the true meaning behind the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima

Friend,
As much as you did not like to see the representation of the Rainbow Flag being raised as on Iwo Jima, do not fail to see that as one of the Bill of Rights guarantees of Free Speech. The Marines raised the Iwo Jima flag (on Mt. Suribachi) to guarantee that freedom of speech even though others do not like what is being said or depicted.

Also, do not forget that one of the Marines who raised the flag was a Pima Indian named Ira Hayes. After he left the Corps, he spiraled downward and died drunk in a few inches of water. Even though he was a war hero, the society in America did not accept an American Indian as one of their own and did not take care of him in his time of need.

Semper Fi

Originally Posted by Guest

If you are going to call people names because you do not like what they read, instead of attacking the subject matter, might I suggest that you either learn to spell or type.

I assume you were calling this person a "moron". There must be a spell check for those who indulge in this kind of stuff, or maybe, you could begin a "Spell check for insulting others". Heck, on here you have any number of built in customers.

Google Get a brain morans to see the humor you missed.

Originally Posted by Guest

Friend,
As much as you did not like to see the representation of the Rainbow Flag being raised as on Iwo Jima, do not fail to see that as one of the Bill of Rights guarantees of Free Speech. The Marines raised the Iwo Jima flag (on Mt. Suribachi) to guarantee that freedom of speech even though others do not like what is being said or depicted.

Also, do not forget that one of the Marines who raised the flag was a Pima Indian named Ira Hayes. After he left the Corps, he spiraled downward and died drunk in a few inches of water. Even though he was a war hero, the society in America did not accept an American Indian as one of their own and did not take care of him in his time of need.

Semper Fi

You missed the entire point of the post. How very unfortunate!

Friend, your comments on the American flag are interesting.

Do you support the right of Sports Illustrated to have their swimsuit super model pose nearly naked laying on top of the American flag which is submerged under water?

Is that desecration of the flag or just a photo of a beautiful swimsuit model?

When I sw the gay rainbow flagged being raised by the shirtless young men in their representation of the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, I had seen enough.

Some not only do not understand, but do not deserve to live here.

If they knew even a little about this country, they would know the immense self sacrifice made to insure our countries survival and would understand the true meaning behind the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima
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Friend,
As much as you did not like to see the representation of the Rainbow Flag being raised as on Iwo Jima, do not fail to see that as one of the Bill of Rights guarantees of Free Speech. The Marines raised the Iwo Jima flag (on Mt. Suribachi) to guarantee that freedom of speech even though others do not like what is being said or depicted.

Also, do not forget that one of the Marines who raised the flag was a Pima Indian named Ira Hayes. After he left the Corps, he spiraled downward and died drunk in a few inches of water. Even though he was a war hero, the society in America did not accept an American Indian as one of their own and did not take care of him in his time of need.

Semper Fi
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It was said that I missed the entire point of the post. No, I did not! The Marines were fighting to preserve our way of life which includes the Freedom of Speech. If you do not like the words or actions - that is just your right not like them and you may say whatever you want against them - BUT the person or group has the Constitutional right to say or depict whatever they want.

Friend, it was YOU that did not get the point of your own post.

Originally Posted by Guest

Friend,
As much as you did not like to see the representation of the Rainbow Flag being raised as on Iwo Jima, do not fail to see that as one of the Bill of Rights guarantees of Free Speech. The Marines raised the Iwo Jima flag (on Mt. Suribachi) to guarantee that freedom of speech even though others do not like what is being said or depicted.

Also, do not forget that one of the Marines who raised the flag was a Pima Indian named Ira Hayes. After he left the Corps, he spiraled downward and died drunk in a few inches of water. Even though he was a war hero, the society in America did not accept an American Indian as one of their own and did not take care of him in his time of need.

Semper Fi

Not sure of what point you are making.

Perhaps my point was not clear, however, so......

I, personally, know (friends with the Michael Strank family who was in that pic) the horrors these men faced to protect liberty, NOT PERFECTION, thus utilizing a sad story makes what point ?

In my opinion, the use of that moment to promote gay rights manifests a lack of understanding of our history, and any depiction not exclusively gay rights, would foster the same opinion in me.

And your other question in an another post.... I find that use of a flag to be wrong, but that is just my opinion.

Hope I responded to all your questions.

The thread was on lack of understanding of the youth, and I gave my opinion. Your story,which I assume is meant to detract from that moment on that small island did not work with me at all. It was a symbolic moment for our country and I prefer to see it as just that.

Originally Posted by Guest

Not sure of what point you are making.

Perhaps my point was not clear, however, so......

In my opinion, the use of that moment to promote gay rights manifests a lack of understanding of our history, and any depiction not exclusively gay rights, would foster the same opinion in me.

And your other question in an another post.... I find that use of a flag to be wrong, but that is just my opinion.

Hope I responded to all your questions.

The thread was on lack of understanding of the youth, and I gave my opinion. Your story,which I assume is meant to detract from that moment on that small island did not work with me at all. It was a symbolic moment for our country and I prefer to see it as just that.

I completely understand how you feel regarding a depiction of an iconic moment being taken. However, that is one of the Freedoms the Marines were fighting for that day. Freedom of Speech - even though we may not agree.

The story of Ira Hayes shows how a war hero can be honored as a Marine but dishonored as a human. It does not take anything from the memory of Sgt. Strank. I would do nothing to dishonor Sgt. Strank or the other heroes of Iwo Jima.

Originally Posted by Guest

I completely understand how you feel regarding a depiction of an iconic moment being taken. However, that is one of the Freedoms the Marines were fighting for that day. Freedom of Speech - even though we may not agree.

The story of Ira Hayes shows how a war hero can be honored as a Marine but dishonored as a human. It does not take anything from the memory of Sgt. Strank. I would do nothing to dishonor Sgt. Strank or the other heroes of Iwo Jima.

The thread was meant to be about young Americans and how they do not realize what this holiday represents.

I said what I said as an example of how that it so.

If you think they do understand or do not understand make your point.

Lecturing me on things I do not need lecturing on seems a waste of a thread.