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Old 07-18-2015, 05:57 AM
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inn this mornings dot com news survey 60% of residents choose let the paths alone.
The chairman of the PAW said he is keeping his options open.
The representative of CDD 5 is in favor of moving forward despite the voices of residents.

I guess we will soon find out if those who are supposed to represent the residents.......in fact do so ..."or not.

I dislike whenever a representative exhibits behavior that infers they know better than the majority they represent.

I strongly suggest residents start writing their representative and let their feelings be known.

Let us not have a politically influenced decision spend our funds.
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I agree, where do we find a list of addresses for thes folks?
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[QUOTE=billethkid;1088518]inn this mornings dot com news survey 60% of residents choose let the paths alone.

I guess we will soon find out if those who are supposed to represent the residents.......in fact do so ..."or not.

I dislike whenever a representative exhibits behavior that infers they know better than the majority they represent."

While I'm not a big fan of polls (easily manipulated) I do agree that a majority of people I know prefer no action with the paths. AND I completely agree with your comments regarding representatives that DO NOT represent... Unfortunately often a silent majority is overlooked and overridden by a vocal minority; so in addition to just writing your rep I also suggest we start showing up at their meetings to let them know face to face how we feel.
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inn this mornings dot com news survey 60% of residents choose let the paths alone.
The chairman of the PAW said he is keeping his options open.
The representative of CDD 5 is in favor of moving forward despite the voices of residents.

I guess we will soon find out if those who are supposed to represent the residents.......in fact do so ..."or not.

I dislike whenever a representative exhibits behavior that infers they know better than the majority they represent.

I strongly suggest residents start writing their representative and let their feelings be known.

Let us not have a politically influenced decision spend our funds.


Excellent idea. Does anyone have an email address?
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Old 07-18-2015, 06:45 AM
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Excellent idea. Does anyone have an email address?
I have not been able to find one location noting all members of the PWAC. However the URL that follows will allow you to click on your district and the email addresses of all your district supervisors. VCDD Your Community District

Why not let all your supervisors know how you feel?
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In the past I have seen a listing Of all representatives contact info, but do not remember where.
If someone knows or finds out please post.
I am traveling and unable to pursue as I usually would.

There is always the phone book.

In the dot com news this morning I wish they would have listed number of respondents.
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I have not been able to find one location noting all members of the PWAC. However the URL that follows will allow you to click on your district and the email addresses of all your district supervisors. VCDD Your Community District

Why not let all your supervisors know how you feel?
Thanks for your post. Just sent our email.
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I do not see this as a political question. The question is "Do the multi-modal paths need to have edge striping? If the answer is Yes, then what is the best and most cost effective method to achieve this goal.

The district representatives will vote on how they believe will best meet the needs of our community. Us as residents, need to let our representative know our position. If we do not do this, or go to the meeting, then we forfet our right to "bitch" about it on this site on any other. It is not political. It is about the safety of the community and making our voice heard.
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My post was not advocating the question of the safety being political. Not one bit.
My post is 100% aimed at what appears to be some waffeling and some taking action "despite" residents input.

It is a call to action to get residents to let their representatives do the resident's bidding. The representatives should in no way act contrary to or "despite" residents" input.

I have sent an email to the dot com new suggesting they could perform a service to us by advising how to contact the respective representatives in TV as well as list their contact information.
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:31 AM
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My post was not advocating the question of the safety being political. Not one bit.
My post is 100% aimed at what appears to be some waffeling and some taking action "despite" residents input.

It is a call to action to get residents to let their representatives do the resident's bidding. The representatives should in no way act contrary to or "despite" residents" input.

I have sent an email to the dot com new suggesting they could perform a service to us by advising how to contact the respective representatives in TV as well as list their contact information.
You are assuming that "the residents" of TV as a whole, have contributed to the poll. IMHO very few residents are in the least bit interested in the striping and just want to go on their merry way having fun, fun, fun and let someone else decide what is right for TV. For instance, I know of no one in my circle, other than me, who has the slightest interest in this chat room, and as for the online newspaper, I think even less people care or know about that. I think you are working on the assumption that this chat line and the dot.com newspaper are major players in TV and I think that is far from the truth.

I will add, that the time to worry about your representatives is before they get elected and not after the fact! How many people really have any interest in who is running for election in their particular Village. I think it comes down to the same ol' same ol' - let someone else do it!
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My post was not advocating the question of the safety being political. Not one bit.
My post is 100% aimed at what appears to be some waffeling and some taking action "despite" residents input.

It is a call to action to get residents to let their representatives do the resident's bidding. The representatives should in no way act contrary to or "despite" residents" input.

I have sent an email to the dot com new suggesting they could perform a service to us by advising how to contact the respective representatives in TV as well as list their contact information.
All their emails and phone numbers are on Village Community Development Districts.
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District 10: Donald Wiley, Tim Sennett (Alternate)
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You are assuming that "the residents" of TV as a whole, have contributed to the poll. IMHO very few residents are in the least bit interested in the striping and just want to go on their merry way having fun, fun, fun and let someone else decide what is right for TV. For instance, I know of no one in my circle, other than me, who has the slightest interest in this chat room, and as for the online newspaper, I think even less people care or know about that. I think you are working on the assumption that this chat line and the dot.com newspaper are major players in TV and I think that is far from the truth.

I will add, that the time to worry about your representatives is before they get elected and not after the fact! How many people really have any interest in who is running for election in their particular Village. I think it comes down to the same ol' same ol' - let someone else do it!

You make some good points. This issue regarding the MMP'S has become more of an emotional issue than political IMHO.

The online survey is far from a "valid" survey but not entirely useless. Remember when the cost ($300,000 plus) was mentioned was when residents started their "push" to drop the idea of side stripping the paths. Money is a big issue and can get the emotions going very quickly.

It's probably true---most TV residents could care less about the whole issue.
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I buy insurance for lots of things. It is unlikely my house will burn down or my car be in an accident. But I pay over a thousand a year to protect those items, just in case. I believe that it is difficult to see the margins of the paths in the dark, especially in the rain or when an oncoming car or cart causes my pupils to constrict thus reducing my night vision. There is no question that having a bright marker on the margins of the path will enhance my ability to determine the curves of the path. Will it actually reduce accidents? No data because only a place like TV could produce such data. Is it worth $7 a year for a margin of safety, I think so. Anyone who claims that visibility is good on the paths is simply not being honest. This is 2 cents a day per household.
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The biggest problem I have at night is carts whose headlights shine directly in my eyes. Markings would be helpful on the curves. I'm not sure they would help much on the straight aways.
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I think that something that will improve safety of traveling by golf cart is a good thing. The expense is not burdensome. As we age our eyesight isn't what it once was. Edge striping will help keep us "on the path".

I think that the reps are taking into account that the people who are against any proposition are always the most vocal. Those in favor or undecided usually don't voice their positions.

I am not clear on why so many are against the striping. Is it the cost? Broken down by household it can't be that much! How much is it worth to have fewer accidents caused by going off the path?
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