Obama has admitted that there is not much the US can do to counteract the Russian incursion into Georgia. However, he said the line must be drawn and if Russia continues into Alabama, he wants to go to the UN and seek severe sanctions.

In the interim, Obama has made plans for a flyover of Atlanta to look at the damages Russian bombardments have caused in the Georgian capital.

OK Muncle, Go up to Gracie's desk!!

Wow, McCain will jump in to as soon as he realizes Putin isn't the President of Germany! ;D

Wow, McCain will jump in to as soon as he realizes Putin isn't the President of Germany!
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Not sure of your meaning on this, but just in case you hadnt heard Sen Mcain spoke directly to the President of Georgia...Sen Obama had a statement released !

I just will add that the following is a headline from the editorial pages of the Chicago Sun Times...

"McCain, not Obama, was right about Georgia "

Yes, I did hear that. Also heard that Obama's statment asked for an immediate cease fire. Which they did. :#1:

Yes, I did hear that. Also heard that Obama's statment asked for an immediate cease fire. Which they did.
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I am sure,....all the others in the world were trumped when they saw Sen Obama on a surf board
Forget all the heads of state...Pres of France,etc.....the surfer dude got it done LOL

Yes he did! :#1:

Originally Posted by Bucco

I just will add that the following is a headline from the editorial pages of the Chicago Sun Times...

"McCain, not Obama, was right about Georgia "

The Chicago Sun Times is a politically conservative tabloid.

The Chicago Sun Times is a politically conservative tabloid.
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So you think Sen Obama was right ?????

When did the Chicago Sun Times become a conservative paper? The Tribune is the conservative paper in Chicago. The Trib is not as conservative as it use to be, but certainly more than the Sun Times.

I made it a point to watch former President Gorbachev interviewed by Larry King last night. As the guy that was part of stopping the cold war on the Russina side, I thought I might learn more about what is happening in Georgia.

I came away even more confused. He supported the actions by the Russians, saying that a splinter (ethnic?) group in Georgia started the whole thing. That surprised me.

Then I saw the President of Georgia interviewed. He seemed to make a more compelling argument, explaining that the Russian invaders were "irregulars" dressed in Russian Army uniforms but not part of the army. He did not mention any Georgian splinter group or actions they might have taken to initiate the conflict.

Clearly, a cease fire is desirable until all concerned can figure out who's doing what to whom. But it doesn't seem to be quite as simple as Russia invading Georgia, killing and raping and then refusing to stop and leave.

If the situation is as confused as it seems, I don't think any American politician should be criticized for requesting or demanding a cease fire.

I don't think any American politician should be criticized for requesting or demanding a cease fire.
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Who has done this ?

Originally Posted by Sally Jo

When did the Chicago Sun Times become a conservative paper?

When Murdoch took it over awhile back, then followed by other publishers. Steve Huntley, the author of the article, identifies himself as a conservative. I read there is a move to take the paper back to its liberal roots. Apparently it is a work in progress.

Bucco, it seems to me that you were the critic of the ways in which the candidates reacted to the situation in Georgia. A few messages earlier you said, "...just in case you hadnt (sic) heard Sen Mcain (sic) spoke directly to the President of Georgia...Sen Obama had a statement released !" I suppose you'll say that it was a statement of fact. But I read it as a clear criticism of the way Senator Obama reacted compared to Senator McCain.

Since this thread began, Senator McCain has now announced that he's sending his emissaries (Senators Lieberman and Graham) to meet with the Russians. Our current President sent his Secretary of State to extract a cease fire agreement from the President of Georgia--the country that was invaded! (By the way, reporters are saying that there is little or no evidence of any organized Georgia army--this in spite of the fact that we have given Georgia hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid since their independence.)

President Bush then announced that an anti-missle defense installation would be built by the U.S. in Poland (there Russkies, take that!). The Russians responded saying that such a facility must be taken out, with nuclear weapons if necessary.

Then the piece de resistance. Just before boarding his helicopter to take off for a two-week vacation on his ranch, Bush made a speech in which he said, "Bullying other countries is no way to conduct diplomacy in the 21st century." Whaaat?

Who's in charge here? Does what we say really mean anything to anyone anymore? What are all our "friends and allies" in NATO and the UN saying? The Eastern European countries are a whole lot closer to the problem than we are and they don't seem to be too concerned or willing to get involved.

Ahhh, maybe it's better that Dubya just go on vacation and stay there and let the candidates govern the country.