The numbers are huge and future procreation multiples staggering:

Report: 2.5 million illegal immigrants under Obama, 400,000 yearly | Washington Examiner

The future expenditures at some point in the future will excede America's ability to pay. That is when the USA starts to increase it's speed of becoming a bonifide third world impoverished country.

How could it not?

How can so many Americans be so stupid on the subject and allow it to continue?

Originally Posted by Guest

The numbers are huge and future procreation multiples staggering:

Report: 2.5 million illegal immigrants under Obama, 400,000 yearly | Washington Examiner

The future expenditures at some point in the future will excede America's ability to pay. That is when the USA starts to increase it's speed of becoming a bonifide third world impoverished country.

How could it not?

How can so many Americans be so stupid on the subject and allow it to continue?

Read the article and post how many illegals came in during Bush's terms in office. Also, what expenditures are you referring to? Illegals do not get food stamps or welfare. They pay into Social Security and will not get anything back.

How many of the workers in The Villages doing your yardwork are legal? Why not call ICE and have all their employers checked to see if I-9's have been completed on each worker?
Become part of the soluion instead of just constant griping.

Originally Posted by Guest

Read the article and post how many illegals came in during Bush's terms in office. Also, what expenditures are you referring to? Illegals do not get food stamps or welfare. They pay into Social Security and will not get anything back.

How many of the workers in The Villages doing your yardwork are legal? Why not call ICE and have all their employers checked to see if I-9's have been completed on each worker?
Become part of the soluion instead of just constant griping.

Are you suggesting that them being here by the millions is OK?
Are you suggesting that what ever any past president did is OK (we know that is not true unless it fits the subject at hand!).
Are you suggesting all the manpower to manage the incoming herd, the impact on our schools and medical facilities is OK?
You certainly are not suggesting the open door for criminals of all type is OK......as long as they are not affecting you personally, that is.

I openly support legal immigration. I openly do not support or accept illegal immigration.

Are you suggesting to be pro active we should be trying to enforce documentaion that our government openly could care less if they have or not?

Up to the point of accusing me of just griping I accept you may have another opinion. However, your accusation of just griping and enfocing the laws only represents an completely uninformed, negative position.

Originally Posted by Guest

Up to the point of accusing me of just griping I accept you may have another opinion. However, your accusation of just griping and enfocing the laws only represents an completely uninformed, negative position.

Y usted, hermano.

If your premise is correct that the herd of illegals (I was not aware that a collection of humans was a herd as I had thought that term was reserved for animals) is costing the nation what the article claims, in the interest of balance, could you supply us with the benefit to our economy of having these "herd" people here?

Originally Posted by Guest

If your premise is correct that the herd of illegals (I was not aware that a collection of humans was a herd as I had thought that term was reserved for animals) is costing the nation what the article claims, in the interest of balance, could you supply us with the benefit to our economy of having these "herd" people here?

Some might ask the same question of yourself.

Originally Posted by Guest

If your premise is correct that the herd of illegals (I was not aware that a collection of humans was a herd as I had thought that term was reserved for animals) is costing the nation what the article claims, in the interest of balance, could you supply us with the benefit to our economy of having these "herd" people here?

Easy!
If they were not here we would be money ahead...expenditures to process, track, register, school impact, et al = zero.

I see no benefit to our economy by trying to put those here illegally to take jobs those who are legal citizens or residents could have.


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Deportation orders failed to oust two illegal immigrants who are now up on drug
charges and under investigation in the July 4 shooting death of a Lawrence grandmother — in an alarming case that critics say illustrates a revolving immigration door with dangerous consequences.

Dominican Republic nationals Wilton Lara-Calmona and Jose M. Lara-Mejia were arrested on drug charges by police investigating the shooting death of Mirta Rivera, 41. The Lawrence nurse was killed in her sleep by a gunshot fired through the ceiling from an upstairs apartment, where both men lived.

But Immigration and Customs Enforcement records reviewed by the Herald show the men shouldn’t have been in the country in the first place.

Lara-Calmona, 38, was deported in April 2012 and arrested for re-entering the country last November, the records show.

Lara-Mejia, 35, was nabbed crossing the border in August 2013 and ordered deported in April 2014, but had remained in the country illegally."


Deportation's revolving door: Suspects in Lawrence shooting shouldn't have been in U.S. | Boston Herald

The number of illegals in the Obama years doesn't support the flair for the dramatic in your post. 2.4 million new illegals in six years in a country of 320 million is .0075%. That is not even one percentage. How is that number going to make us a third world country?

Why not fix the immigration problem with a comprehensive immigration reform? It is not a one step fix by sticking up a wall or fence along our Southern boarder. Who is trying to kid who? That is all Republican House wants to do. That is their idea of comprehensive reform.

Originally Posted by Guest

The number of illegals in the Obama years doesn't support the flair for the dramatic in your post. 2.4 million new illegals in six years in a country of 320 million is .0075%. That is not even one percentage. How is that number going to make us a third world country?

Why not fix the immigration problem with a comprehensive immigration reform? It is not a one step fix by sticking up a wall or fence along our Southern boarder. Who is trying to kid who? That is all Republican House wants to do. That is their idea of comprehensive reform.

Exactly what is it that is not acceptable in the existing immigration laws that have worked through this country's past and works except apparently between Mexico and The Usa....coming our way only?

What is it that so badly needs reform that the country has elected to not enforce the laws?

Originally Posted by Guest

Read the article and post how many illegals came in during Bush's terms in office. Also, what expenditures are you referring to? Illegals do not get food stamps or welfare. They pay into Social Security and will not get anything back.

How many of the workers in The Villages doing your yardwork are legal? Why not call ICE and have all their employers checked to see if I-9's have been completed on each worker?
Become part of the soluion instead of just constant griping.

They will stop coming when we stop hiring them and impose fines that hurt businesses that do!!!

Marco Rubio on Immigration

This is a good summary of some solutions presented by the Republicans.

Do some more research on this issue for the various candidates in the Presidential election for 2016. It should be very interesting what you find.

Republicans say illegal aliens
Demoncrats say undocumented workers
I think the problem is that the term "illegal" is not in the democratic dictionary.

I've always found undocumented workers to be harder workers than most American workers.

Originally Posted by Guest

I've always found undocumented workers to be harder workers than most American workers.

And what does that have to do with anything being discussed?
And it is unfortunate you have been around the wrong American workers.
Your comment is insensitive, rude and derogatory to the majority of Americans who have made this country what it is.

You have heard the old saying if you don't have something nice to say (about your country) the keep your mouth SHUT!