Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:


She was elected Alaska 's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience. 1

Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2

She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3

Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4

She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change. 5

She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6

How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7

In addcition, she is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska.

Sources:


1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, Accessed August 29, 2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

2. "McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=1

3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=2


4. "'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=3

5. "Palin buys climate denial PR spin—ignores science," Huffington Post, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=4

6. " McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=5

"Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy Policies of the Past," League of Conservation Voters, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=6

"Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of London, May 23, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=7

7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC , August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=8

Your source of MOVEON tells the story !!!!!!!

The Next VP of the USA

:#1: :bigthumbsup: ;D :bigthumbsup:]

Moveon.org is hardly a credible source. She has more executive experience than McCain, Obama and Biden put together. Not that that is saying much, since they don't have any.

I posted this earlier but it applies...

Just two observations....

Gov Palin, I believe, had served 5 years in office before Sen Obama thought about running for office....

And lastly...from Sen Obama's speech of Thursday night...

"For eighteen long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past. You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us - that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it - because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time."


Is not Gov Palin the only one of all 4 candidates who meets that criteria ?

It just struck me when reading this part of his speech !

Sarah Palin left the finances of her town Wasilla in tatters when she moved on in 2002. She wanted a legacy as mayor, it seems, and pushed hard for the town to build a hyper-expensive sports complex. But Palin screwed the process up badly. Instead of buying the land for the complex when it was offered, her administration allowed a developer named Gary Lundgren to snap it up. Then Wasilla tried to seize the land from Lundgren through eminent domain. In the end, what with court costs Wasilla paid at least $ 1.7 million for land it could have bought for less than one tenth that sum - if the purchase had been handled properly. For this incompetence, Wasilla is still paying a steep price: higher taxes and cutbacks in services. In other words Palin is about as efficient as Michael Brown, onetime head of FEMA.

JUNGLEJIM...would you mind posting your source ! Thanks

Originally Posted by Lil Dancer

Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:


She was elected Alaska 's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience. 1

Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2

She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3

Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4

She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change. 5

She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6

How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7

In addcition, she is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska.

Sources:


1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, Accessed August 29, 2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

2. "McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=1

3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=2


4. "'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=3

5. "Palin buys climate denial PR spin—ignores science," Huffington Post, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=4

6. " McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=5

"Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy Policies of the Past," League of Conservation Voters, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=6

"Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of London, May 23, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=7

7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC , August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=1...73-CCcS9Px&t=8

Lil Dancer, quite a diatribe against our Sarah. Why are you soooo angry, or should I say worried?

Gee JUNGLEJIM...I found your source...good old DAILY KOS...a site specifically set up to be an advocate for the Democratic party.....oh,and JUNGLEJIM....the article I read there didnt say what you said....things like "Sarah Palin left the finances of her town Wasilla in tatters when she moved on in 2002" or things like "But Palin screwed the process up badly."

OH NO...I got that wrong...while an article does exist in DAILYKOS...your post was EXACTLY EXACTLY the post from a message board on GOOGLE..a poker gambling site I think, where that poster was rebuked for taking a story that DID NOT EVEN MENTION HER NAME and added what you posted..

Here is where you copied it from.....if anyone wants to check..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...c7e93b22f71c20

I know you appreciate me calling this to your attention !!!!!

Actually it was from here.
http://www.examiner.com/miami
But who am I to argue with a Know it all.

Actually it was from here.
http://www.examiner.com/miami
But who am I to argue with a Know it all.
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I am no where close to knowing even1/16 of it all.....I DO KNOW ...

..YOUR POST ON THIS IS WORD FOR WORD...COMMA FOR COMMA...PERIOD FOR PERIOD from a poster on the board on poker in Google.

...THAT POST WAS DEBUNKED TOTALLY...and here is the article that was used by that poster you copied from....DID NOT EVEN MENTION PALINs name..

http://www.adn.com/matsu/story/474934.html

...THE LINK YOU JUST SUPPLIED has no mention of what you say..NONE.

What I do know is I cant think of what to say to anyone who would do something like this.

PLEASE show me where I am wrong...in this case I really want to be wrong and not believe that someone would do this !

Originally Posted by JohnnyM

Lil Dancer, quite a diatribe against our Sarah. Why are you soooo angry, or should I say worried?

You folks are pretty funny. After months of questioning obama's credentials, when Sarah Palin's credentials are listed you all get pretty huffy. The truth hurts, doesn't it?

You folks are pretty funny. After months of questioning obama's credentials, when Sarah Palin's credentials are listed you all get pretty huffy. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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1. I havent heard Sen Obama's credentials as of yet

2. Using a source such as MOVEON to slam someone you oppose is pretty lame. (sort of like what JUNGLEJIM did on here)

3. Not huffy.....just want to discuss Sen Obama and his training and mentors that make him so eligible for this job ! Then after that...want to go over the issues and see where we stack up..

Pretty much the same story is here.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12987.html

[quote=Lil Dancer[/quote]
Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background: (my comments are in italics)

She was elected Alaska 's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience. But she does have domestic public adminstration experience - something that none of the three Senators in the race have.

Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest. As are many other people for all sorts of reasons (me, included). When we kill the most indefensible among us because they are inconvenient and too young to resist, it's not a far jump to kill those who are inconvenient and too old to resist.

She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. So? I voted for Jesse Jackson, Ross Perot and George Bush. At least she isn't a main-stream lemming-type follower.

Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools. [i]So, she doesn't believe mankind is a descendant of pond scum and the dinosaur. Many others don't either. The last time I checked, Darwin's "missing ]

She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change. Planet Earth has evolved many times in its history, and no one can say what it's true temperature and clilmate is supposed to be. EVERYTHING causes climate change, and mankind is not as important as it thinks it is.

She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska. What surprises me is that people in Florida, Illinois, New York and California seem to think they know what's better for Alaska than Alaskans, and at the same time don't want anyone interfering with their State's Rights.

How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position. One would think this choice was thoughtful and deliberate. Sen. McCain hasn't done anything I've seen that constitutes recklessness.

In addcition, she is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska. Not to sound too religious, but the last perfect person I've been told to walk this Planet was crucified - everyone else IS far from perfect. As surprising as it may seem, hunters and fisher[wo]men are probably the MOST environmentally concerned people in this country and elsewhere. They appreciate the environment from up-close-and-personal, and not from Manhattan high-rises or other urban pueblos. Yes, there is an investigation concerning an alleged incident in Alaska - as there will probably be one about untra-special mortgage deals for a certain Senator from a Chicago "businessman." And until just a couple dozen months ago, Sen. Obama was still working in Illinois - and his DC experience, based on his record of missed votes, doesn't add to much...

I'm also looking for as much scrutiny of Gov Palin as I am of the 3 Senators in the race. I don't expect it all to be rosy and perfect for her, as it surely isn't for the 3 Senators. However, there seems to be a bitterness being shown towards this Vice Presidential candidate, with forced comparisons to her versus the Democratic Presidential candidate. Gov. Palin as VP as opposed to Sen. Biden would seem like the natural comparison. If that's not the case, and its viewed as an Obama-Palin campaign, the good Senator's record of public adminstration and responsiblity may be seen as lacking....