A Friend of Mine sent this to me...I don't know where she got it....if she wrote it...etc...I don't know if this has been sent around or not but I thought it was very interesting food for thought. Not stating MY opinion or trying to start an argument....just wanted to share some interesting facts. IMHO...I would also add ALL of their life experiences as well....but how much formal education should one need to run the country....something we all need to ask ourselves.


If you were The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually critical election year. The idea of "leadership" must be broadened from mere "experience" to include knowledge, learnedness and insight.

Let's look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

Got this in an email a week or so ago !!! Its ok...I get them from both sides. Amazing how your perspective on an election skews all the info.....you can twist a bunch of facts to twist it to what you want to say.

Not arguing with you just responding ! I care more about character and ability. If the above were all that important, it would be easy to simply choose our leaders, but there is much more to it than that !

Grew up with a guy....#1 in high school class....#1 at Temple Univ in his class....about a year after graduation, he shot and killed two folks..why ? Who the heck knows...but people are not made from education...that is some polish surely....I dont believe that anybody can or should be measured by education whether for President, job or friend !

Choice of advisors, choice of associates, listening skills, judgement...none taught at any school I know !

Bucco....first I am wondering how you can get to these threads so fast!!

Second...I AGREE!

We are on a roll....

I was hoping you would write what you did.....I just thought it was interesting though...

Again...we agree on what we want, what we need and the important things....we just disagree on HOW we are going to get it and who is going to help us....lead us rather....



My grandmother said something to me one time...something I will NEVER forget. I was about 14....my older sister was 15. I was an average student...she was valedictorian...I thought at first it was an insult...but over the years is what the best thing anyone has ever said to me...

My grandmother pulled me aside...she said "Honey, your sister may have all the smarts...but you have common sense...and this will get you much farther at times."

So ofcourse I thought she was telling me I was stupid...or had no brains....but as I got older....I realized that common sense will always prevail...and it has gotten me a lot further!! I love when my smart sister calls me for help! LOL

Cassie, even more deplorable.... Bill Gates, the brilliant guru of Microsoft was a college dropout. Go figure how important all that prestige that you can't eat is! And the list goes on.....

Good post Cassie.....I sometimes have the computer in front of me while watching baseball....big fan and with the MLB program canget all the games.....sit here and check every once in a while......only do that sometimes and tonight was one of them...

ALL AMERICANS want the same thing....it is a shame that politics gets in the way. Things are so complex today....read an article today on how we got into this financial situation...will put the link below...it is simple and easy to understand and does not try to place blame.

http://www.kypost.com/content/wcposh...6-b3cf58a19377

The smartest person in my high school class was great in academics, however, didn't have a lick of common sense. When "headhunters" recruit on college campuses they don't necessarily look for the smartest students. They want some one well rounded

Originally Posted by Peachie

Cassie, even more deplorable.... Bill Gates, the brilliant guru of Microsoft was a college dropout. Go figure how important all that prestige that you can't eat is! And the list goes on.....

Good point Peachie...that is so true!

Bucco....thank you for the link...will read it shortly....

PS...B....I don't like baseball or sports either...but I PROMISE not to cross over the the sports forum....I think that would be dangerous territory for a princess like me!! LOL

Is it possible to be well educated and have common sense? Reading the above posts might make one assume that the well educated are functional idiots.

doesn't make the person. It simply means that is where they went to school and what they graduated with.
It says absolutely nothing about ones capability. It may assure potential....assuming the person knows or wants to use it.

I made it a practice in industry to NEVER overlook the non pedigreed candidates.
What tended to be the ultimate sorter was accomplishments. The pedigree in and of itself is just one parameter to help in the decision making process.
It certainly never was the deciding factor to me...I will take the intuitive genius every time over a multi lettered scholar....but that is me.

BTK

Samhass: "Is it possible to be well educated and have common sense? Reading the above posts might make one assume that the well educated are functional idiots."
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A few Congressional people come to mind, Sam... Good to see you're back at the computer!

The answer to the question "Is formal education important ? " is yes and no. IMHO

People who are 60 and above were born right after the great depression and many of us retirees are children or grandchildren of immigrants. For many bright children from hard working families, education past high school wasn't a viable option, and if any in the family were educated, boys were picked first. As a result, many from my high school graduating class did not go on to college, and yet most of them became successful, in one way or another. Most managed to have nice homes, "steady" work and apparently happy lives.

Originally Posted by samhass

Is it possible to be well educated and have common sense? Reading the above posts might make one assume that the well educated are functional idiots.

Oh I didn't mean it to sound like that at all Samm...sorry! I would just say that while I do believe in education and have my degree...that life experiences are some times just as important. But I absolutely believe in a formal education!

My sister is very smart....and while she has common sense...some times I just have to say hhmmmm...... LOL

But that does not mean anything other than my sister makes me laugh...

I certainly agree that many lesser educated people are brilliant. I just didn't like where this thread was going. It seemed to look down upon those with advanced degrees and find them somehow "lacking". BTW, I am not among those with advanced degrees. I just worked hard, as many in my generation did and was blessed with a decent IQ and a lot of common sense.

Originally Posted by samhass

I certainly agree that many lesser educated people are brilliant. I just didn't like where this thread was going. It seemed to look down upon those with advanced degrees and find them somehow "lacking". BTW, I am not among those with advanced degrees. I just worked hard, as many in my generation did and was blessed with a decent IQ and a lot of common sense.

Samhass.....the thread was about the candidates for public office and from my point of view I was responding about THAT PARTICULAR area and nothing more.
An education is vital in todays world, the more the better...my point was only that I felt that character, heart, judgement, etc was more important in electing someone to office !

Originally Posted by Cassie325

A Friend of Mine sent this to me...I don't know where she got it....if she wrote it...etc...I don't know if this has been sent around or not but I thought it was very interesting food for thought. Not stating MY opinion or trying to start an argument....just wanted to share some interesting facts. IMHO...I would also add ALL of their life experiences as well....but how much formal education should one need to run the country....something we all need to ask ourselves.


If you were The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually critical election year. The idea of "leadership" must be broadened from mere "experience" to include knowledge, learnedness and insight.

Let's look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

The team knowledgeable and experienced in the subjects of importance!

The academic credentials of all four candidates mean little, but as a plus I'd lean towards McCain/Palin based on their "business" and "systems management" knowledge.

Contrary to popular belief, a Juris Doctor degree does not make you a know-it-all in reality (only in attitude!). Law degree curricula do not contain any business training at all -nada - none - and some of the worst businessmen in the world are lawyers because of that, and the number of lawyers each year who screw up basic business actions within their practices is immense compared to other businesses.

Right now the economy has the top headlines. Great academic knowledge of Constitutional Law and Political Science (a catch-all pre-law degree) means little to me. I'm more concerned that the "team" understands business finance, systems management and the practicalities associated with managing other people's and their own money.

Lawyers are "support" personnel who provide advice on their areas of speciality within the law, and the recipients of that advice are "business people." Being a lawyer is not a prerequisite for being President, as the President will be surrounded by a small army of lawyers anyway. The trick is knowing how to use the lawyers correctly, and few lawyers even know how to do that.