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Tell him it aint so Joe No new taxes

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GI Joe - Joe six pack - Joe the plumber - Joe the tax payer - American Joe

Da Sgt Mac

Poor Joe!!! All this pressure to be so many different people!!

Joe the Plumber: Obama tax plan ‘infuriates me’

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...e_plumber.html

Joe is ok he is a American Working Man
and Jane the Working Woman

Da Sgt

Originally Posted by Bucco

Joe the Plumber: Obama tax plan ‘infuriates me’

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...e_plumber.html

Bucco, my friend, highjacking for just a moment...what forum are you going to post in after the election? Just worried you won't have any more to say for a few months.....no matter who wins...

We had best find you a new topic....I hate to not see you on here!! Whether we agree or not....

OK...back to Joe and Jane....they are indeed strong American workers...let's just hope they still have a job....

Originally Posted by Cassie325

Bucco, my friend, highjacking for just a moment...what forum are you going to post in after the election? Just worried you won't have any more to say for a few months.....no matter who wins...

We had best find you a new topic....I hate to not see you on here!! Whether we agree or not....

OK...back to Joe and Jane....they are indeed strong American workers...let's just hope they still have a job....

Guess we need an election...I have only posted, actually, in the Horse Park forum and here...start getting ready for the congressional elections I suppose

unemployment numbers only....the chances Joe the plumber still will have a job are significantly better than not. At the current "massive increase" in unemployment more than 90% still have jobs.
I know it is one of those numbers that media and partisans don't like to hear, but it is a fact!!! I understand it would be different if one were part of the 5% unemployed, however that does not change the fact that over 90% still are at work!

BTK

Originally Posted by Cassie325

Bucco, my friend, highjacking for just a moment...what forum are you going to post in after the election? Just worried you won't have any more to say for a few months.....no matter who wins...

We had best find you a new topic....I hate to not see you on here!! Whether we agree or not....

OK...back to Joe and Jane....they are indeed strong American workers...let's just hope they still have a job....

Cassie, I think whether we agree or dont agree that the only thing I have discussed on this board was the idealogy and training received by Sen Obama and because of that I oppose his election especially with Pelosi and Reid there to assist and no opposition at all !

In that vein I have tried to bring up what I thought were important facts and in some cases was dismissed or engaged in lively discussion.

This morning already on posts I have been called a racist and somewhat less smart than...I suppose an Obama supporter.....thus to respond to your question about posting...this is my last post on here. I have been engaged in politics for many years not just as an observer but as an active participant and it has been for BOTH parties and never had this racist hate thing attached to any disagreement I seem to have nor have I ever been called less than average intellegence as I have on this board, both on here and in pms.

I wish you well !!!

...and he was still "infuriated" by it, then that would suggest that Joe has annual income of more than $250,000 per year. That puts him in the top 4% of income earners in the U.S. That is the only group of taxpayers who would pay more under the Obama plan.

I know everyone wants to think of Joe as a guy in a dirty t-shirt pulling on a pipe-wrench. But in fact Joe must be making a lot more money than 95% of Americans. He can be infuriated, but he's one of the people who has benefited the most from the tax reductions of the last eight years that have been so heavily tilted to the wealthy.

Kahuna, that is the craziest plan isn't it? 4% of the income earners, including those with the tenacity and guts to run a small business, will pay ALL the tax increases to cover the HUGE deficit garnered by a the Democratic Congress in the past 8 years. Joe Plumber should just lay on the bottom with rest of the country and feed, I surely wouldn't start a small business. I think we should all sit back and wait for those refunds from Mr. Obama, is anybody listening to what he is proposing? We will ALL pay in spades.

Basically, what the Obama tax plan does is to reverse the tilt of tax benefits for the wealthiest Americans which occurred under the tax reductions enacted during the first six years of the Bush administration. Under Obama's plan those that benefitted by the more generous reductions won't be paying any more than they were before the Bush tax reductions were enacted.

People argue that the Obama plan is "income redistribution". I suppose maybe it is...back to the way it was before the current president, along with his party who controlled Congress for the first six years of his administration, changed the tax rates to a scale more beneficial to the wealthiest Americans.

I suppose one might even observe that it was the group that benefited the most that were more generous with their campaign contributions, if that might have had anything to do with the revised tax rates.

I might add the idea that neither candidate is making much sense proposing any kind of tax cuts. Here were are with a record national debt and a federal deficit that is likely to be a multiple of the highest recorded in history and the two candidates are telling the electorate what we always want to hear--they're going to cut our taxes. If we're ever going to balance the federal budget and begin to reduce the national debt, there are probably two things that both candidates should admit are probably necessary...

INCREASE TAX REVENUES

DRAMATICALLY CUT FEDERAL SPENDING

With out those two things happening, we live in a country headed for an even greater financial disater than we've experienced in the last few weeks.

i keep thinking, 700 billion rescueplan,, someone has to pay for it. just be up front tell us each taxpayer will have to pay for this over the next year or how many and get it over with. just be up front with it.

I figured out why Joe the Plumber is worried about higher taxes. It seems that Joe does not pay all the taxes he is suppose to pay even now. The Toledo Blade is reporting that Joe has an outstanding tax lien by the Ohio Department of Taxation for $1183 in personal property taxes that he has not paid. Also, he does not have a plumber's license in Ohio and his reported income from his divorce papers is $40,000. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame, Joe.

So the point, Ohio, is to stay on the bottom and feed. Perhaps if Joe could make more money his bills would be paid. There is no incentive to do anything other than what he is doing now, greater benefits where he is at. Obama himself said he wanted to redistribute the wealth and that means if you make more than the next guy, part of what you make will subsidize him. No pretty words, no long dissertation... this is the bottom line folks without all the pretty. Government will saturate your every move, more and more and more government.

Originally Posted by ohiogolf

I figured out why Joe the Plumber is worried about higher taxes. It seems that Joe does not pay all the taxes he is suppose to pay even now. The Toledo Blade is reporting that Joe has an outstanding tax lien by the Ohio Department of Taxation for $1183 in personal property taxes that he has not paid. Also, he does not have a plumber's license in Ohio and his reported income from his divorce papers is $40,000. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame, Joe.

It was a good 15.. Or was it??