This was posted on another thread, and is reflective of the thinking of the far right. The problem isn't in the "far right". Everyone else is the problem.

" The problem is the supposed moderates saying they are conservative, when in reality they are just RINOs. The so-called Independents are just liberals that are trying to camouflage the fact that they are left. Most Republicans today are not "far right" but have just had enough of the left wing bullying attempt, where liberals accuse conservatives of being at war with women, war against the poor, in the rich's pocket, racists, gay bigots and religious fanatics. When the reality of it is that they are just plain ole Christian conservatives maintaining the same old morality they have always had, but had up until now, keep their mouths shut. Just because liberals have been running roughshod all over the constitution in the past decade or so, does not mean that anyone that opposes them is a far right radical. But, make believe you are average and normal all you want, and watch America go European. And I say European as a slur intentionally. It is you liberals and so-called moderates that have changed the norm with the media tool. We conservatives have remained stable and patriotic, while you have made a big to do about regressing to European socialism and calling it being progressive. It is you that have changed American morality by insisting that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. It is you liberals that have tried to convince our children that being homosexual is normal, that abortions are not sinful, that drugs should be legalized, and that vulgarity is common place. Don't blame America's downfall on the conservatives.
If my opinion is deemed evil to you, then I wonder what you base your opinion on. It certainly isn't anything American Everyone else is the problem and not us."

How can anyone say the above is rational thought? Give us everything that we want, and we will call that a compromise. Everyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time is the problem. Members of the Republican party that don't agree with us 100% of the time don't belong in our party, and will get rid of them.

Freedom of Speech only applies, if it is speech that we agree with. Everyone else should shut the hell up.

The only press that should exist is Fox News, because it is "fair and balanced". A perfect example of this was on the morning show that said they were going to have a discussion of both sides of issues with their two guests, because they are the "fair and balanced" network. Their two guests agreed on everything, and that is their idea of both sides of issues, and being "fair and balanced". Only our opinions matter.

This is democracy that the far right wants in the US. I am a moderate. Whether the person that wrote the post that I referenced wants to believe it or not. A portion of the Republican party has moved to the far right. They are kicking moderates out of Washington, because these people want to work with the Democrats. Trump is feeding thought, and doing very well. Washington is broken. So, we should elect a dictator, and get our way on everything all the time.

The reason things aren't getting done is the far right idea is only their opinions matter. When the Hastert rule gets put into effect, the far right wins, and Americans lose. Whether you want to hear it or not, the far right is the problem.

Originally Posted by Guest

This was posted on another thread, and is reflective of the thinking of the far right. The problem isn't in the "far right". Everyone else is the problem.

" The problem is the supposed moderates saying they are conservative, when in reality they are just RINOs. The so-called Independents are just liberals that are trying to camouflage the fact that they are left. Most Republicans today are not "far right" but have just had enough of the left wing bullying attempt, where liberals accuse conservatives of being at war with women, war against the poor, in the rich's pocket, racists, gay bigots and religious fanatics. When the reality of it is that they are just plain ole Christian conservatives maintaining the same old morality they have always had, but had up until now, keep their mouths shut. Just because liberals have been running roughshod all over the constitution in the past decade or so, does not mean that anyone that opposes them is a far right radical. But, make believe you are average and normal all you want, and watch America go European. And I say European as a slur intentionally. It is you liberals and so-called moderates that have changed the norm with the media tool. We conservatives have remained stable and patriotic, while you have made a big to do about regressing to European socialism and calling it being progressive. It is you that have changed American morality by insisting that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. It is you liberals that have tried to convince our children that being homosexual is normal, that abortions are not sinful, that drugs should be legalized, and that vulgarity is common place. Don't blame America's downfall on the conservatives.
If my opinion is deemed evil to you, then I wonder what you base your opinion on. It certainly isn't anything American Everyone else is the problem and not us."

How can anyone say the above is rational thought? Give us everything that we want, and we will call that a compromise. Everyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time is the problem. Members of the Republican party that don't agree with us 100% of the time don't belong in our party, and will get rid of them.

Freedom of Speech only applies, if it is speech that we agree with. Everyone else should shut the hell up.

The only press that should exist is Fox News, because it is "fair and balanced". A perfect example of this was on the morning show that said they were going to have a discussion of both sides of issues with their two guests, because they are the "fair and balanced" network. Their two guests agreed on everything, and that is their idea of both sides of issues, and being "fair and balanced". Only our opinions matter.

This is democracy that the far right wants in the US. I am a moderate. Whether the person that wrote the post that I referenced wants to believe it or not. A portion of the Republican party has moved to the far right. They are kicking moderates out of Washington, because these people want to work with the Democrats. Trump is feeding thought, and doing very well. Washington is broken. So, we should elect a dictator, and get our way on everything all the time.

The reason things aren't getting done is the far right idea is only their opinions matter. When the Hastert rule gets put into effect, the far right wins, and Americans lose. Whether you want to hear it or not, the far right is the problem.

Originally Posted by Guest

This was posted on another thread, and is reflective of the thinking of the far right. The problem isn't in the "far right". Everyone else is the problem.

" The problem is the supposed moderates saying they are conservative, when in reality they are just RINOs. The so-called Independents are just liberals that are trying to camouflage the fact that they are left. Most Republicans today are not "far right" but have just had enough of the left wing bullying attempt, where liberals accuse conservatives of being at war with women, war against the poor, in the rich's pocket, racists, gay bigots and religious fanatics. When the reality of it is that they are just plain ole Christian conservatives maintaining the same old morality they have always had, but had up until now, keep their mouths shut. Just because liberals have been running roughshod all over the constitution in the past decade or so, does not mean that anyone that opposes them is a far right radical. But, make believe you are average and normal all you want, and watch America go European. And I say European as a slur intentionally. It is you liberals and so-called moderates that have changed the norm with the media tool. We conservatives have remained stable and patriotic, while you have made a big to do about regressing to European socialism and calling it being progressive. It is you that have changed American morality by insisting that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. It is you liberals that have tried to convince our children that being homosexual is normal, that abortions are not sinful, that drugs should be legalized, and that vulgarity is common place. Don't blame America's downfall on the conservatives.
If my opinion is deemed evil to you, then I wonder what you base your opinion on. It certainly isn't anything American Everyone else is the problem and not us."

How can anyone say the above is rational thought? Give us everything that we want, and we will call that a compromise. Everyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time is the problem. Members of the Republican party that don't agree with us 100% of the time don't belong in our party, and will get rid of them.

Freedom of Speech only applies, if it is speech that we agree with. Everyone else should shut the hell up.

The only press that should exist is Fox News, because it is "fair and balanced". A perfect example of this was on the morning show that said they were going to have a discussion of both sides of issues with their two guests, because they are the "fair and balanced" network. Their two guests agreed on everything, and that is their idea of both sides of issues, and being "fair and balanced". Only our opinions matter.

This is democracy that the far right wants in the US. I am a moderate. Whether the person that wrote the post that I referenced wants to believe it or not. A portion of the Republican party has moved to the far right. They are kicking moderates out of Washington, because these people want to work with the Democrats. Trump is feeding thought, and doing very well. Washington is broken. So, we should elect a dictator, and get our way on everything all the time.

The reason things aren't getting done is the far right idea is only their opinions matter. When the Hastert rule gets put into effect, the far right wins, and Americans lose. Whether you want to hear it or not, the far right is the problem.

If you are going to group all of those comments from different posters together, you might want to state that you are doing so. I can get quotes from Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Hillary and group them and it will look pretty nasty.

But, nice BAITING TACTIC to get the forum agitated. Your TROLL experience has improved since you started on here. Someone must be giving you pointers.

Originally Posted by Guest

This was posted on another thread, and is reflective of the thinking of the far right. The problem isn't in the "far right". Everyone else is the problem.

" The problem is the supposed moderates saying they are conservative, when in reality they are just RINOs. The so-called Independents are just liberals that are trying to camouflage the fact that they are left. Most Republicans today are not "far right" but have just had enough of the left wing bullying attempt, where liberals accuse conservatives of being at war with women, war against the poor, in the rich's pocket, racists, gay bigots and religious fanatics. When the reality of it is that they are just plain ole Christian conservatives maintaining the same old morality they have always had, but had up until now, keep their mouths shut. Just because liberals have been running roughshod all over the constitution in the past decade or so, does not mean that anyone that opposes them is a far right radical. But, make believe you are average and normal all you want, and watch America go European. And I say European as a slur intentionally. It is you liberals and so-called moderates that have changed the norm with the media tool. We conservatives have remained stable and patriotic, while you have made a big to do about regressing to European socialism and calling it being progressive. It is you that have changed American morality by insisting that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. It is you liberals that have tried to convince our children that being homosexual is normal, that abortions are not sinful, that drugs should be legalized, and that vulgarity is common place. Don't blame America's downfall on the conservatives.
If my opinion is deemed evil to you, then I wonder what you base your opinion on. It certainly isn't anything American Everyone else is the problem and not us."

How can anyone say the above is rational thought? Give us everything that we want, and we will call that a compromise. Everyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time is the problem. Members of the Republican party that don't agree with us 100% of the time don't belong in our party, and will get rid of them.

Freedom of Speech only applies, if it is speech that we agree with. Everyone else should shut the hell up.

The only press that should exist is Fox News, because it is "fair and balanced". A perfect example of this was on the morning show that said they were going to have a discussion of both sides of issues with their two guests, because they are the "fair and balanced" network. Their two guests agreed on everything, and that is their idea of both sides of issues, and being "fair and balanced". Only our opinions matter.

This is democracy that the far right wants in the US. I am a moderate. Whether the person that wrote the post that I referenced wants to believe it or not. A portion of the Republican party has moved to the far right. They are kicking moderates out of Washington, because these people want to work with the Democrats. Trump is feeding thought, and doing very well. Washington is broken. So, we should elect a dictator, and get our way on everything all the time.

The reason things aren't getting done is the far right idea is only their opinions matter. When the Hastert rule gets put into effect, the far right wins, and Americans lose. Whether you want to hear it or not, the far right is the problem.

We'll keep your secret about how you like to use "TeaB@..er" to describe every conservative you argue with on here. We'll also keep it a secret how you disparage Christians, call the Bible fiction and God a myth. Don't worry, your crying and weeping about how hard it is for a liberal on a conservative majority forum is our little secret. Do you feel better now?

I'm sorry that you feel so slighted. But, as you know conservatives are mean spirited and we do have to keep up our facade.

Free advice: If you don't like a political forum, go find one that you DO like. I understand that Huffington has one that should suit you.

Originally Posted by Guest

This was posted on another thread, and is reflective of the thinking of the far right. The problem isn't in the "far right". Everyone else is the problem.

" The problem is the supposed moderates saying they are conservative, when in reality they are just RINOs. The so-called Independents are just liberals that are trying to camouflage the fact that they are left. Most Republicans today are not "far right" but have just had enough of the left wing bullying attempt, where liberals accuse conservatives of being at war with women, war against the poor, in the rich's pocket, racists, gay bigots and religious fanatics. When the reality of it is that they are just plain ole Christian conservatives maintaining the same old morality they have always had, but had up until now, keep their mouths shut. Just because liberals have been running roughshod all over the constitution in the past decade or so, does not mean that anyone that opposes them is a far right radical. But, make believe you are average and normal all you want, and watch America go European. And I say European as a slur intentionally. It is you liberals and so-called moderates that have changed the norm with the media tool. We conservatives have remained stable and patriotic, while you have made a big to do about regressing to European socialism and calling it being progressive. It is you that have changed American morality by insisting that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. It is you liberals that have tried to convince our children that being homosexual is normal, that abortions are not sinful, that drugs should be legalized, and that vulgarity is common place. Don't blame America's downfall on the conservatives.
If my opinion is deemed evil to you, then I wonder what you base your opinion on. It certainly isn't anything American Everyone else is the problem and not us."

How can anyone say the above is rational thought? Give us everything that we want, and we will call that a compromise. Everyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time is the problem. Members of the Republican party that don't agree with us 100% of the time don't belong in our party, and will get rid of them.

Freedom of Speech only applies, if it is speech that we agree with. Everyone else should shut the hell up.

The only press that should exist is Fox News, because it is "fair and balanced". A perfect example of this was on the morning show that said they were going to have a discussion of both sides of issues with their two guests, because they are the "fair and balanced" network. Their two guests agreed on everything, and that is their idea of both sides of issues, and being "fair and balanced". Only our opinions matter.

This is democracy that the far right wants in the US. I am a moderate. Whether the person that wrote the post that I referenced wants to believe it or not. A portion of the Republican party has moved to the far right. They are kicking moderates out of Washington, because these people want to work with the Democrats. Trump is feeding thought, and doing very well. Washington is broken. So, we should elect a dictator, and get our way on everything all the time.

The reason things aren't getting done is the far right idea is only their opinions matter. When the Hastert rule gets put into effect, the far right wins, and Americans lose. Whether you want to hear it or not, the far right is the problem.

Get help

Isn't it interesting, you completely ignore the statement that I referenced, but I need help. Why don't address that statement? You didn't in the either thread. Seems like, you are really either running away from it, or totally agree with it.

The standard operating procedure on this board is never, I mean never, address the comments made by a poster, but always degrade him.

Conservatives and the far right Republicans are two different animals.

Originally Posted by Guest

Isn't it interesting, you completely ignore the statement that I referenced, but I need help. Why don't address that statement? You didn't in the either thread. Seems like, you are really either running away from it, or totally agree with it.

The standard operating procedure on this board is never, I mean never, address the comments made by a poster, but always degrade him.

Conservatives and the far right Republicans are two different animals.

If you insist---
The Republicans may have moved a bit right, but the Democratic Party has moved way, way left
Fox News does so well because all the other mainstream media is in the tank for the progressives
Freedom of speech is being shut down by the liberals, especially on college campuses. Anyone who disagrees with their progressive thoughts is a racist

Like I said, get help

Originally Posted by Guest

If you insist---
The Republicans may have moved a bit right, but the Democratic Party has moved way, way left
Fox News does so well because all the other mainstream media is in the tank for the progressives
Freedom of speech is being shut down by the liberals, especially on college campuses. Anyone who disagrees with their progressive thoughts is a racist

Like I said, get help

...

What is a moderate? I consider Rockefeller Republicans moderate.

This is an interesting and timely topic but it is not getting the necessary and thoughtful process it requires.

First and least important many people may be liberal on some issues conservative on others, etc.

Secondly defining someone's beliefs, is like defining beauty which is in the eye of the beholder

Third, mores and customs alter such terms. At one time a moderate was a traditionalist. Today a traditionalist is considered to be far right and a progressive is far left. Socialist and progressive are co-mingled

Fourth our demographics have radically changed, age, sex, nationality and have as a collective, altered our mores, traditions, beliefs.

Having said that I consider myself to be a moderate (traditionalist) believing in one's rights and freedoms of speech, religion,etc. I believe marriage should be defined as a union between one man and one woman . I believe I have the right to own a gun (s). I believe that the nuclear family is the unifying requirement for a nation. I believe that the 10 Commandments are excellent guidelines. I believe in the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence and while thee documents ought to be argued as to their intent and meaning they should not be altered. I believe in patriotism and America's exceptionalism.

Label me as you will but do not underestimate my love of country.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

This was posted on another thread, and is reflective of the thinking of the far right. The problem isn't in the "far right". Everyone else is the problem.

" The problem is the supposed moderates saying they are conservative, when in reality they are just RINOs. The so-called Independents are just liberals that are trying to camouflage the fact that they are left. Most Republicans today are not "far right" but have just had enough of the left wing bullying attempt, where liberals accuse conservatives of being at war with women, war against the poor, in the rich's pocket, racists, gay bigots and religious fanatics. When the reality of it is that they are just plain ole Christian conservatives maintaining the same old morality they have always had, but had up until now, keep their mouths shut. Just because liberals have been running roughshod all over the constitution in the past decade or so, does not mean that anyone that opposes them is a far right radical. But, make believe you are average and normal all you want, and watch America go European. And I say European as a slur intentionally. It is you liberals and so-called moderates that have changed the norm with the media tool. We conservatives have remained stable and patriotic, while you have made a big to do about regressing to European socialism and calling it being progressive. It is you that have changed American morality by insisting that the Bible is fiction and that God is a myth. It is you liberals that have tried to convince our children that being homosexual is normal, that abortions are not sinful, that drugs should be legalized, and that vulgarity is common place. Don't blame America's downfall on the conservatives.
If my opinion is deemed evil to you, then I wonder what you base your opinion on. It certainly isn't anything American Everyone else is the problem and not us."

How can anyone say the above is rational thought? Give us everything that we want, and we will call that a compromise. Everyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time is the problem. Members of the Republican party that don't agree with us 100% of the time don't belong in our party, and will get rid of them.

Freedom of Speech only applies, if it is speech that we agree with. Everyone else should shut the hell up.

The only press that should exist is Fox News, because it is "fair and balanced". A perfect example of this was on the morning show that said they were going to have a discussion of both sides of issues with their two guests, because they are the "fair and balanced" network. Their two guests agreed on everything, and that is their idea of both sides of issues, and being "fair and balanced". Only our opinions matter.

This is democracy that the far right wants in the US. I am a moderate. Whether the person that wrote the post that I referenced wants to believe it or not. A portion of the Republican party has moved to the far right. They are kicking moderates out of Washington, because these people want to work with the Democrats. Trump is feeding thought, and doing very well. Washington is broken. So, we should elect a dictator, and get our way on everything all the time.

The reason things aren't getting done is the far right idea is only their opinions matter. When the Hastert rule gets put into effect, the far right wins, and Americans lose. Whether you want to hear it or not, the far right is the problem.

Since you are going to cry about it if your little comment is not addressed appropriately, here let me give it a try. Not that you will do anything but run away or divert...as usual for you.

The comment that you are trying to dissect, that offends you is pretty much describing the liberal on here, and many of them in D.C. You seem to have a problem with the truth, so how can anyone argue with you?

Your first two paragraphs can also be used back at you. I am sure you agree that there was NO compromise by the Democrat controlled congress OR Obama in the first two years. So, your statement is a double bladed sword.

Fox cable news network is the number one cable network in the world, not because ONLY conservatives watch it. If not for liberals getting their information from it, it could not be number one. Liberal, mainstream media is not informational and does not give anything other than a liberal slant. If you don't like the ONE conservative network, then don't watch it. Why should FOX compromise for you? Are you really that naive?

You call yourself a moderate. Fine, that's great. Apparently moderate has a different definition now. Am I allowed an opinion, or does your comment mean that if I don't agree with you, I must be right wing? My opinion is that conservative is the same now as it was forty years ago. Unfortunately, the Republicans in congress are mostly moderate to left leaning, with a sprinkling of new freshmen conservatives. Most Republicans that I know of are RINOs.
Being pro-life is NOT being right wing. As a Christian, it is not optional.
Wanting a smaller government, less expensive is being conservative, not right wing.
Wanting immigration laws that are on the books, enforced is not being right wing.
Wanting a balanced budget is not being right wing, it's being conservative.
Keeping dangerous drugs from children is not being right wing, it's being a responsible adult, usually and mostly coming from the conservative side.
Believing in the Bible is not right wing, it used to be from both the Republican and Democratic side. Communism was ALWAYS our enemy.
Believing that slavery was wrong, is a conservative trait, not Right Wing. And was not endorsed by the left either.

I can go on and on, but I believe you get the idea. Maybe, just maybe you should examine the current state of affairs in this country and think about what makes a fanatic and what is normal and conservative. I do not belong to the Tea Party, but from what I have read, they are both Republican and Democrat with a sprinkling of Independents. From what I read of what they believe, I do not see one issue with what they profess.

Now, if you want an honest debate, which I doubt then why don't you give me an idea what you would define as Liberal versus moderate? In stead of baiting everyone with your attempt to make one comment into a whole thread, a comment that you didn't originate, why don't you do some explaining, instead of crying about how you are misunderstood? It seems like you are trying awfully hard to convince others (or yourself) that you are not liberal. Does anyone care on here where you stand in politics? It's just a conversation related to politics, not a resume'.

Originally Posted by Guest

This is an interesting and timely topic but it is not getting the necessary and thoughtful process it requires.

First and least important many people may be liberal on some issues conservative on others, etc.

Secondly defining someone's beliefs, is like defining beauty which is in the eye of the beholder

Third, mores and customs alter such terms. At one time a moderate was a traditionalist. Today a traditionalist is considered to be far right and a progressive is far left. Socialist and progressive are co-mingled

Fourth our demographics have radically changed, age, sex, nationality and have as a collective, altered our mores, traditions, beliefs.

Having said that I consider myself to be a moderate (traditionalist) believing in one's rights and freedoms of speech, religion,etc. I believe marriage should be defined as a union between one man and one woman . I believe I have the right to own a gun (s). I believe that the nuclear family is the unifying requirement for a nation. I believe that the 10 Commandments are excellent guidelines. I believe in the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence and while thee documents ought to be argued as to their intent and meaning they should not be altered. I believe in patriotism and America's exceptionalism.

Label me as you will but do not underestimate my love of country.

Personal Best Regards:

...well said.

I'm going to have to dig out my Evelyn Wood speed reading program notes.[emoji6]

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm going to have to dig out my Evelyn Wood speed reading program notes.[emoji6]

If your speed reading becomes as sharp as your wit, then we are in big trouble. Take your time and absorb it all.

Originally Posted by Guest

This is an interesting and timely topic but it is not getting the necessary and thoughtful process it requires.

First and least important many people may be liberal on some issues conservative on others, etc.

Secondly defining someone's beliefs, is like defining beauty which is in the eye of the beholder

Third, mores and customs alter such terms. At one time a moderate was a traditionalist. Today a traditionalist is considered to be far right and a progressive is far left. Socialist and progressive are co-mingled

Fourth our demographics have radically changed, age, sex, nationality and have as a collective, altered our mores, traditions, beliefs.

Having said that I consider myself to be a moderate (traditionalist) believing in one's rights and freedoms of speech, religion,etc. I believe marriage should be defined as a union between one man and one woman . I believe I have the right to own a gun (s). I believe that the nuclear family is the unifying requirement for a nation. I believe that the 10 Commandments are excellent guidelines. I believe in the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence and while thee documents ought to be argued as to their intent and meaning they should not be altered. I believe in patriotism and America's exceptionalism.

Label me as you will but do not underestimate my love of country.

Personal Best Regards:

Beautifully written. Wish I could express myself as well as you just did. Suffice it to say, I agree with your thoughts and beliefs. I'm part of the boomer generation and one thing I would like to add is that there are many of us who still hold onto these age old traditions and values. Unfortunately, we are often not as vocal as the boomers who cling to the liberal mindset. I hope and pray that "our voices are heard" on election day.