Check < drudgereport.com > for the latest corruption in Illinois politics. This is the latest crime with the last Governor in Prison and two other Governors having recently served hard time for political corruption. Obama comes from this group and his fund raiser in Illinois is about to be sentenced. In Illinois, we have the best polititions that money can buy !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Lucko

Check < drudgereport.com > for the latest corruption in Illinois politics. This is the latest crime with the last Governor in Prison and two other Governors having recently served hard time for political corruption. Obama comes from this group and his fund raiser in Illinois is about to be sentenced. In Illinois, we have the best polititions that money can buy !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucko:
What took the feds so long to nail this guy? I still have the pleasure to watch Illinois and Chicago politics daily. What a joke.

Gotta jump in here folks. Being from Chicago, just about a year here, I'm happy this S.O.B. has been arrested. Never did like him.

But, to single out Chicago for dirty politics is just wrong. I don't know where you are all from, but look around you. If you think you're state is exempt from any of this, you're living in a fantasy world.

And yes, I'm still proud that President-elect is from Chicago, and still proud that I am too.

Originally Posted by Lucko

Check < drudgereport.com > for the latest corruption in Illinois politics. This is the latest crime with the last Governor in Prison and two other Governors having recently served hard time for political corruption. Obama comes from this group and his fund raiser in Illinois is about to be sentenced. In Illinois, we have the best polititions that money can buy !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama comes from this group I guess you missed the part where, in the wiretaps, the GOV says "F**k Obama. It is being reported that Rahm Emmunel blew the whistle on this jerk.

Here's hoping the former Gov(R) and the current Gov(D) get to share a cell together.

Good honest hard working people don't deserve this kind of leadership from either party.

Book Em Dano!!!

at any level one wants to cite, federal or state, elected or appointed.... are infested with shady characters conducting shady business. The most alarming is the number of people in government who are aware of the crimes being committed yet no disclosure. And worst of all, how we the people don't seem to care (if we really cared we would not be re-electing the wrong doers).
The old you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours has been denigrated to a criminal level.
The irony? Way too many of them are lawyers or legally trained. They of course know where and when they approach the thin ice....then there are the stupid ones as in Illinois who have the gall to step way over the line.
The person who blew the whistle needs to be congratulated.

How much crime and corruption are we willing to allow? Seems there is no limit to our permissiveness.

What will be interesting to watch now is when the in crowd closes ranks and what comes out of this situation.....making it sound like he really didn't do anything "that" bad...a defense that will make many nervous....they all do the same thing....he got caught!!!

Just like in Washington, DC....NO ACCOUNTABILITY RULES THE DAY!!!!
Hence no fear of retribution and they know they will get re elected....sad!!!

BTK

Originally Posted by Guest

at any level one wants to cite, federal or state, elected or appointed.... are infested with shady characters conducting shady business. The most alarming is the number of people in government who are aware of the crimes being committed yet no disclosure. And worst of all, how we the people don't seem to care (if we really cared we would not be re-electing the wrong doers).
The old you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours has been denigrated to a criminal level.
The irony? Way too many of them are lawyers or legally trained. They of course know where and when they approach the thin ice....then there are the stupid ones as in Illinois who have the gall to step way over the line.
The person who blew the whistle needs to be congratulated.

How much crime and corruption are we willing to allow? Seems there is no limit to our permissiveness.

What will be interesting to watch now is when the in crowd closes ranks and what comes out of this situation.....making it sound like he really didn't do anything "that" bad...a defense that will make many nervous....they all do the same thing....he got caught!!!

Just like in Washington, DC....NO ACCOUNTABILITY RULES THE DAY!!!!
Hence no fear of retribution and they know they will get re elected....sad!!!

BTK

At least we all can feel confident there will be no corruption or double-dealling with any of the bailout moneys doled out now and in the future.......
(Gasp!)

"Obama comes from this group."

What group? Did it escape your attention that including the current Governor, if he is convicted, four of the last seven Illinois Governors dating back to 1968 will have been convicted and served time. Another, dating back to 1953 was tried but acquitted of tax evasion. They came from both political parties and called different parts of the State home. If convicted, the current Governor, a Democrat from Chicago, will join his predecessor, a Republican from Joliet, in federal prison.

The "group" you're referring to certainly doesn't appear to be political party-specific. Nor does it seem to be people from a particular city or region of Illinois. Maybe you're suggesting that all Chicagoans...or all Illinoisans are crooks and aren't to be trusted. No it couldn't be that because you'd be including yourself in a distasteful group, you being from Central Illinois.

Gee, if you're grasping for a reason not to like or support our new President, I'm sure you can come up with stronger justifications than that. In fact, you don't even need a justification. Just say that you dislike and distrust our new President, regardless of what he does and how he conducts himself. That's certainly OK. The U.S. is a free country.

Just don't bother the rest of us with such nonsensical statements.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

"Obama comes from this group."

What group? Did it escape your attention that including the current Governor, if he is convicted, four of the last seven Illinois Governors dating back to 1968 will have been convicted and served time. Another, dating back to 1953 was tried but acquitted of tax evasion. They came from both political parties and called different parts of the State home. If convicted, the current Governor, a Democrat from Chicago, will join his predecessor, a Republican from Joliet, in federal prison.

The "group" you're referring to certainly doesn't appear to be political party-specific. Nor does it seem to be people from a particular city or region of Illinois. Maybe you're suggesting that all Chicagoans...or all Illinoisans are crooks and aren't to be trusted. No it couldn't be that because you'd be including yourself in a distasteful group, you being from Central Illinois.

Gee, if you're grasping for a reason not to like or support our new President, I'm sure you can come up with stronger justifications than that. In fact, you don't even need a justification. Just say that you dislike and distrust our new President, regardless of what he does and how he conducts himself. That's certainly OK. The U.S. is a free country.

Just don't bother the rest of us with such nonsensical statements.

"Obama comes from this group."

I guess that means that convicted former U.S. senator Ted Stevens and Gov. Sarah Palin are in the same group too? They’ve GOT to be! They’re both from Alaska! Oh brother -

the grou would be "politicians". They are all in the y'owe-me club.
They all say what ever people want to hear. They all seem seem to lack enough insight to blow the whistle on their own. They are all adept of taking care of number one (themselves first). They all have little or no priority for the real needs of we the people. Yes I understand there are some good ones...for politician the reverse paredo (80/20 rule) applies....80% need replacing with 20% learning from the 80% how to keep their job for life without accomplishing much.

And what is so amusing....these are the same clowns who say, we better have government involvement in over seeing catastrophes like the big three bail out sorry I get a laugh attack every time it comes to mind.

A synonym not in the book...politician = hypocrite!

That is my shot for the day. I feel better already!!

BTK

Don't forget Jim Edgar was almost there with the rest of them. They sent to trial a scape goat Jim Berger and he was found Not Guilty.

If it's true that all politicians are hypocrites, out for themselves, have little or no priority for the needs of the people, etc., we're all in more trouble than we can imagine.

I surely hope our electd representatives are not 80-20 leaning towards the undesirable. Ours is a democracy. It's based on the people being represented by those who will act in their behalf. We have no choice except the democracy that has resulted in the place where we live and work today. If those that are the principal operatives of our system of government are as bad as has been described, woe are we.

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Gotta jump in here folks. Being from Chicago, just about a year here, I'm happy this S.O.B. has been arrested. Never did like him.

But, to single out Chicago for dirty politics is just wrong. I don't know where you are all from, but look around you. If you think you're state is exempt from any of this, you're living in a fantasy world.

And yes, I'm still proud that President-elect is from Chicago, and still proud that I am too.

"Illinois has long legacy of public corruption
At least 79 elected officials have been convicted of wrongdoing since 1972"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28141995/

If it was only 79 in Illinois in the last 35 years, that's not too bad. The count would be at least that high for the U.S. Congress. The last time I did a count for investigations and indictments of Congressmen and Senators, it was about 20--and that was just in the last eight years. If we went back 35 years the list of Congressional perpatrators would be at least as long as Illinois, I'm sure.

Not worth the effort though. However close it might be to 79, it's still too depressing.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

If it was only 79 in Illinois in the last 35 years, that's not too bad. The count would be at least that high for the U.S. Congress. The last time I did a count for investigations and indictments of Congressmen and Senators, it was about 20--and that was just in the last eight years. If we went back 35 years the list of Congressional perpatrators would be at least as long as Illinois, I'm sure.

Not worth the effort though. However close it might be to 79, it's still too depressing.

Just responding to the silly attempt to defend Illinois politics !!!!