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Gentlmen,

Can I interest you in a discussion of American military interventions and repeal of the 17th Amendment? I.e. returning election of Senators to the State Legislature instead of popular election. What's bad about 'popular' is all you have to do is get the 'rabble vote' of the state's biggest cities and that's it, esp. the coastal states like NY and CA . You may have seen elsewhere on the board and attached below.

In the posting below, yours truly is in "shriek mode", for various "marketing" reasons.

In a more relaxed setting, such as being in the presence of veterans and discussing military service, I though I'd advance an aspect of Repealing the 17th that has bearing on the military, namely, the Senate's authority to declare war under the Constitution.

Backing up for a moment, my 'sales pitch' for Repealing the 17th has 3 benefits for American values (i.e. Type 1 laws: good; Type 2 laws: bad):

1) no state legislature is going to send an aggressive big-government liberal to Washington to turn around and start imposing hellish Federal impositions on the States (taxes, regs, social engineering and environmental laws).

2) no state-legislature Senate is going to send corrupters of American values to the Supreme Court (e.g. Ginsburg)

3) PERTINENT TO THE MILITARY: a state legislature-elected Senate will be much more concerned about:

a) having its war-making authority respected

b) being Very deliberate in decisions about declaring war

(PS: now a "romper room", the Senate used to be called 'the deliberative body' (as opposed to the House)).

Since WWII, war-making decisions have degraded to basically nothing; in this sense we are no longer a Republic but have turned into an Empire, and the Emperor makes war decisions, very contrary to the Founders' intent.

So, with that as a setting, what would "the list" of American wars look like if they had to have been Declared by a state legislature-elected Senate? I submit that that list would be shorter, and those wars would be shorter as well. We can discuss that or leave to the imagination as preferred.

I would ask, however, to look to the future and what can be given to future generations, i.e. returning to future generations what the Founders gave us in the first place, namely a huge barrier to American involvement in war.

Any thoughts?

Regards.

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Repeal of the 17th Amendment.

No matter how corrupt they may be, no State Legislature is going to send a Femo-Fascist (like Hillary Clinton) to Washington, who then turns around and tries to impose mountains of Federal crap on the States, e.g. gun control, Obamacare, environmentalism, touchy-feely laws, taxes-taxes-taxes, etc.

The minute they become Beltway-too-big-for-their-britches, they get yanked out of office by the State Legislature.

The Founding Fathers understood this simple mechanism and check on the Federal Govt. They also hated democracy, for the disgusting reasons we can see in Femo-Fascism.

We can start to turn back the Femo-Fascist tide of sewage by Repealing the 17th Amendment.

If not sure why Femo-Fascism is the tide of sewage referred to above, please see Type 2 Laws discussed at


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Why are these posts included in the New Forum page? They are obviously political, and I have reported them as such to the mods. Please take your opinions over to the political forum.

Originally Posted by CFrance

Why are these posts included in the New Forum page? They are obviously political, and I have reported them as such to the mods. Please take your opinions over to the political forum.

Actually it is in the Politics Forum. The Mods created a new section within the Politics forum. I guess they haven't coded it not to show up on the "New Posts" list. I'm sure that was just an oversight that will be taken care of.

Originally Posted by CFrance

Why are these posts included in the New Forum page? They are obviously political, and I have reported them as such to the mods. Please take your opinions over to the political forum.

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Actually it is in the Politics Forum. The Mods created a new section within the Politics forum. I guess they haven't coded it not to show up on the "New Posts" list. I'm sure that was just an oversight that will be taken care of.

Yeah, what KS said.

The TOTV Team decided to add a couple of sub-forums to the Political Forum (conservatives/liberals) in hopes of cleaning it up (good luck with that )...and they probably just forgot to ensure they don't show up in 'New Posts.'

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Yeah, what KS said.

The TOTV Team decided to add a couple of sub-forums to the Political Forum (conservatives/liberals) in hopes of cleaning it up (good luck with that )...and they probably just forgot to ensure they don't show up in 'New Posts.'

Thanks. Apologies to bog99. Hopefully Admin will fix the problem, because even the post titles are inflammatory.

Originally Posted by CFrance

Thanks. Apologies to bog99. Hopefully Admin will fix the problem, because even the post titles are inflammatory.

I don't think you really want to do that...LOL

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