[Ooper]

Did I miss something? There used to be signs restricting golf cart traffic from Buenos Aires Blvd. (that's the street from Freedom Pointe to Rt. 441) We had to use the tunnel right next to the intersection to cross El Camino Real. There are no signs anymore and I have frequently seen cart traffic going right thru the intersection from Freedom Pointe going to Publix, Walgreens, or doctor offices... even Lowes and Bealls across Rt 441. The street has a posted speed limit of 30 MPH. Last I knew, unless the cart is street legal (and these aren't), you couldn't drive a cart on a street if posted with higher than 25 MPH. The only exception to this is to cross the street at the light, crossing from Alhambra and Santiago on El Camino Real. Is this a priveledge granted to Freedom Pointe residents?

[MSNPA]

I was wondering the same thing. Yesterday I was at a doctor's appointment and when leaving I was shocked to see a golf cart on Buenos Aires and it was not Street Legal. I thought there were restrictions on streets with red lights.

[zcaveman]

I do know that you are allowed to cross from the Spanish Pointe shopping center to the doctor complex on the other side of the street. Other than that I do not think cart traffic is allowed on Buenos Aires.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Ooper

Did I miss something? There used to be signs restricting golf cart traffic from Buenos Aires Blvd. (that's the street from Freedom Pointe to Rt. 441) We had to use the tunnel right next to the intersection to cross El Camino Real. There are no signs anymore and I have frequently seen cart traffic going right thru the intersection from Freedom Pointe going to Publix, Walgreens, or doctor offices... even Lowes and Bealls across Rt 441. The street has a posted speed limit of 30 MPH. Last I knew, unless the cart is street legal (and these aren't), you couldn't drive a cart on a street if posted with higher than 25 MPH. The only exception to this is to cross the street at the light, crossing from Alhambra and Santiago on El Camino Real. Is this a priveledge granted to Freedom Pointe residents?

I think the rule is 30mph. I could be wrong.

Yoda

[fraurauch]

There is a Railroader's Memorial Musium in Altoona, PA. I think Scranton, PA has one as well.

[Ooper]

Originally Posted by marianne237

Can anyone advise of a museum in PA that might be interested in a medal and certificate presented to my late Aunt's father? He was a doughboy in WWI, and at the start of WWII volunteered to serve again. As a machinist, he was assigned to ride and maintain railroad services. I found these items recently and thought some organization might be interested in them.

He was born and raised in Cokeville, PA, which I understand does not exist any longer due to a flood in the '30s. Since I'm not from Pennsylvania, would appreciate some thoughts or suggestions. Is there railroad or state museum which might be interested? How would I contact them?

marianne237... this forum was about the carts using Buenos Aires Blvd. You should open a new forum if you want to completly change the subject.

[mrdills]

For LSV's you can drive on any street that posts a speed limit of 35 and you are able to cross 441 and 466 at the lights.

[Ooper]

Originally Posted by mrdills

For LSV's you can drive on any street that posts a speed limit of 35 and you are able to cross 441 and 466 at the lights.

I agree, but these are not LSV's. These are your typical everyday golf carts, no license, split windshields, no seatbelts, etc.

[starflyte1]

How do you know what streets are cart legal? Where do you go to ask? My husband is getting gas cart. This morning we went to scout out the Shell station on Buenos Aires, but it looks to me like we can't take a cart on that street. Where do we go to find out exactly what streets are ok for carts?

[redwitch]

Star, unless the rules have changed (which I doubt), you take the tunnel at Buenes Ares/El Camino, go to the next street (which is golf cart legal), hang a left at the stop sign, go to the middle lane behind Walgreen's and cross Buenes Ares to get to the gas station in your cart. It is allowed to cross there to get your gas -- at least I've never been stopped and have crossed there right in front of the Sheriff.

[starflyte1]

Thanks, that is what my husband wants to do.

[swrinfla]

Street legal carts must be licensed and insured, and, I think carry a sign that says they are. Leastwise, virtually every one I've seen has its little label.

And, there appear to be more and more of them, and that gives me some concern, because they can drive where most Villagers in an automobile won't expect them!

SWR

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Star, unless the rules have changed (which I doubt), you take the tunnel at Buenes Ares/El Camino, go to the next street (which is golf cart legal), hang a left at the stop sign, go to the middle lane behind Walgreen's and cross Buenes Ares to get to the gas station in your cart. It is allowed to cross there to get your gas -- at least I've never been stopped and have crossed there right in front of the Sheriff.

A Sumter County Sheriff's Deputy who was extremely rude to me at that gas station begs to differ with your assertion that it is legal to access it by crossing Beunos Aires. This guy thought he had caught Osama Bin Laden. He threatened me with a $500 fine. Then he had to make a big show by blocking traffic with his car running the emergency lights and waving me back across. Oh, and before I left the station, he shouted out his window, "DID YOU PAY FOR THAT GAS."

After we crossed the road, I got out and told him that in the years that I was a deputy sheriff, I never displayed that kind of an arrogant attitude to anybody, not even a felon. He just grinned at me through his partial plate, rolled up his window and left.

[redwitch]

Um, read what I said, TH. I didn't say it was legal, just that I've never been stopped, even when I crossed and the Sheriff was parked and saw me (one even stopped on the street and waved me across becasue traffic was a little heavy). I don't know if it is legal or not, just that it is done by those of us who own carts and live in that area. Sorry you had such a bad experience -- I've found the Deputy Sheriffs to be polite, considerate and even have shown some humor even when I've inadvertantly broken a law.

Wonder what there is about you that brings out the worst in people even when you're just walking in your own neck of the woods? I've met you -- you're a nice guy. So, what is there that you get so many bad experiences?

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Um, read what I said, TH. I didn't say it was legal, just that I've never been stopped, even when I crossed and the Sheriff was parked and saw me (one even stopped on the street and waved me across becasue traffic was a little heavy). I don't know if it is legal or not, just that it is done by those of us who own carts and live in that area. Sorry you had such a bad experience -- I've found the Deputy Sheriffs to be polite, considerate and even have shown some humor even when I've inadvertantly broken a law.

Wonder what there is about you that brings out the worst in people even when you're just walking in your own neck of the woods? I've met you -- you're a nice guy. So, what is there that you get so many bad experiences?

I think I'm a nice guy too, at least I try to be (I am the nice administrator.) All my life fate has twisted and turned around me. Every event, every activity, every job I have ever been involved in results in high drama. Ask Tony. He's been a witness to it for 45 years.


JLK