[ColdNoMore]

In remembrance...of a very sad day.


Hate & Evil Personified (click here)

Today is the fifth anniversary of the horrific massacre at Mother Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina. I want to first take a moment to say the names of the nine people whose tragic and senseless deaths must not be forgotten:

Rev. DePayne Middleton-Doctor
Cynthia Graham Hurd
Susie J. Jackson
Ethel Lee Lance
Rev. Clementa C. Pinckney
Tywanza Kibwe Diop Sanders
Rev. Daniel Lee Simmons Sr.
Rev. Sharonda Coleman-Singleton
Myra Singleton Quarles Thompson

We remember them and mourn the senseless taking of their lives.

To end hate, we must dismantle white supremacy and oppression in all its forms.

At the SPLC, we are challenging hate through our work, supporting educators in teaching the truth about our history to a new generation, remaining vigilant in monitoring more than 900 hate groups in the country and pushing elected and military officials to remove more than 1,700 Confederate symbols across the country.

We owe it to the Emanuel Nine – and to millions of others who have lost their lives to white supremacy and racism – to continue onward undaunted.

Dylann Roof (click here)

A law enforcement official said witnesses told authorities the gunman stood up and said he was there "to shoot black people."

Although armed at the time of capture...he was done so alive.



Per Wikipedia:

Three days after the shooting, a website titled The Last Rhodesian was discovered and later confirmed by officials to be owned by Roof.

The website contained photos of Roof posing with symbols of white supremacy and neo-Nazism, along with a manifesto in which he outlined his views toward black people, among other peoples.

He also claimed in the manifesto to have developed his white supremacist views after reading about the 2012 shooting of Trayvon Martin and black-on-white crime.

[graciegirl]

That church group is a monument to all things that Christians believe in. Even after this terrible, terrible event, members spoke out in a message of forgiveness, and faith....something I could not have done. I will remember this awful tragedy by thinking that these good people lived the philosophy of kindness and goodness. It made me all the madder that anyone could have done something like this. I don't think he was sick. I don't think he was "evil" in the biblical sense. I just wish that there is something that will show the world how wrong and how bad he is. And some kind of a fit punishment for him and anyone like him. He doesn't represent anyone I have ever known....

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That church group is a monument to all things that Christians believe in. Even after this terrible, terrible event, members spoke out in a message of forgiveness, and faith....something I could not have done. I will remember this awful tragedy by thinking that these good people lived the philosophy of kindness and goodness. It made me all the madder that anyone could have done something like this. I don't think he was sick. I don't think he was "evil" in the biblical sense. I just wish that there is something that will show the world how wrong and how bad he is. And some kind of a fit punishment for him and anyone like him. He doesn't represent anyone I have ever known....

Unless you can read minds or hearts...you really can't know that.

None of us can.

Of course, very few would ever be stupid enough to say it out loud...much less do anything about their views, like Roof did.

How many posts have you seen right here however, sometimes by reading between the lines...that are sympathetic with his same viewpoint shown here?

..."to have developed his white supremacist views after reading about the 2012 shooting of Trayvon Martin and black-on-white crime."

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Unless you can read minds or hearts...you really can't know that.

None of us can.

Of course, very few would ever be stupid enough to say it out loud...much less do anything about their views, like Roof did.

How many posts have you seen right here however, sometimes by reading between the lines...that are sympathetic with his same viewpoint shown here?

It takes only an intuitive person to feel hate......or kindness. Some carry one banner as you say but they live another philosophy. There are many who frequently post very self righteously but are so filled with anger. It makes many of us wonder what has happened to them to be so filled with anger..........all of the time. Every post.......

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

It takes only an intuitive person to feel hate......or kindness. Some carry one banner as you say but they live another philosophy. There are many who frequently post very self righteously but are so filled with anger. It makes many of us wonder what has happened to them to be so filled with anger..........all of the time. Every post.......

POKE HERE

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

It takes only an intuitive person to feel hate......or kindness. Some carry one banner as you say but they live another philosophy. There are many who frequently post very self righteously but are so filled with anger. It makes many of us wonder what has happened to them to be so filled with anger..........all of the time. Every post.......

We agree.

[GoodLife]

I wonder if there are whackos of all types and colors that shoot and bomb people at churches?

Why yes, there are.

Black Man in church shooting aimed to kill 10 white people

State: Man in church shooting aimed to kill 10 white people

Pakistan church bomb: Christians mourn 85 killed in Peshawar suicide attack

Pakistan church bomb: Christians mourn 85 killed in Peshawar suicide attack | Pakistan | The Guardian

There's lots more if people want to discuss this kind of thing.

[ColdNoMore]

This thread was started in remembrance of the exact day 5 years ago...that this tragedy occurred.

And yet, not a single comment from you...on THAT?

Instead of just simply acknowledging it, the attempt to divert to "whataboutism?" (around the world no less)...is noted.

Which, if I chose to go down that road...you would lose in a landslide.


P.S. Per your first link:

...a note in Samson’s car cited white supremacist Dylann Roof’s massacre at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015. It also referenced the red, black and green Pan-African flag, sometimes called RBG.

NO, unlike so many others, I don't believe retribution/revenge outside of the legal system...is ever appropriate.

Yes, I believe both both of the incidents you linked are ALSO tragedies...and am not loathe to admit so.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

This thread was started in remembrance of the exact day 5 years ago...that this tragedy occurred.

And yet, not a single comment from you...on THAT?

Instead of just simply acknowledging it, the attempt to divert to "whataboutism?" (around the world no less)...is noted.

Which, if I chose to go down that road...you would lose in a landslide.


P.S. Per your first link:



NO, unlike so many others, I don't believe retribution/revenge outside of the legal system...is ever appropriate.

Yes, I believe both both of the incidents you linked are ALSO tragedies...and am not loathe to admit so.

I think all deaths, especially murders, are sad. I'm equally sad about the 500 whites murdered by blacks last year as I am about 229 blacks murdered by whites.

[ColdNoMore]

Still trying to misdirect, distract and not acknowledge...the reason for this thread.


Noted.