[kja966]

I just interacted with the Villages Sun for a renewal of my subscription. I had to give a credit card number over the phone. I asked why no online presence and the ability to pay, suspend, and restart subscriptions online like 98% of publications. I was told they are a small town newspaper and that would destroy that image if they provided that service. It was all I could do not to laugh into the phone. The Sun is many things, an advertiser, housing brochure, lite news, but small town newspaper?
It got me thinking about the “computer” status here in TV.
Newspaper forces interaction on phone, limited hours and snail mail interactions.
The golf tee time system is badly in need of upgrade. Clunky interface, inability to see any open time on same day, generally looks like a 1990’s interface. The phone system is arcane and byzantine. A relative used to pride himself on setting up a tee time for a group of 12. With errors and redos it usually took him over an hour.
VCDD system somewhat better but government systems usually have limited functionality.
It is obvious that this is not a priority for the powers that be. I would think the convenience and 24 hour availability would more than pay for itself. Smoothing out tee time interfaces would make their job easier. Shopping cart technology is mature and affordable. Tee time apps, both Apple and Android are obvious needs. Even athena health care appointments on line non functional.
Just some rambling thoughts.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by kja966

I just interacted with the Villages Sun for a renewal of my subscription. I had to give a credit card number over the phone. I asked why no online presence and the ability to pay, suspend, and restart subscriptions online like 98% of publications. I was told they are a small town newspaper and that would destroy that image if they provided that service. It was all I could do not to laugh into the phone. The Sun is many things, an advertiser, housing brochure, lite news, but small town newspaper?
It got me thinking about the “computer” status here in TV.
Newspaper forces interaction on phone, limited hours and snail mail interactions.
The golf tee time system is badly in need of upgrade. Clunky interface, inability to see any open time on same day, generally looks like a 1990’s interface. The phone system is arcane and byzantine. A relative used to pride himself on setting up a tee time for a group of 12. With errors and redos it usually took him over an hour.
VCDD system somewhat better but government systems usually have limited functionality.
It is obvious that this is not a priority for the powers that be. I would think the convenience and 24 hour availability would more than pay for itself. Smoothing out tee time interfaces would make their job easier. Shopping cart technology is mature and affordable. Tee time apps, both Apple and Android are obvious needs. Even athena health care appointments on line non functional.
Just some rambling thoughts.

The folks who make the decisions here are not as techy as YOU. Howsomeever, they sure do know a lot of stuff and make a lot of wise choices. Some people can do ronde de jambe a terre and some cannot. I can barely chew gum and walk but I have accomplished a thing or two in this life.

What you can assume from this criticism is that the older generation is still in control. They are able to move Live oaks by the dozen that are fifty-sixty foot tall. They can build an amazing house and tell you what hour you will close on it. They are able to continue business in the worst economic downturn this world has seen in a long time.

I am not real techy but I am not dumb either. Just stop. I am having a bad day. I like the Morses and I have observed them closely for many years. Never met them but I can see by their works they are good people. AND SMART AS HELL.

[kathyspear]

In this day and age there really is no excuse for an outfit as large as TV to be living in the dark ages, technologically speaking. Want to make sure you can get tickets to a particular showing of a movie? You have to drive down to the theatre and buy tickets in the morning, then go back later for the show, because they are not online like almost every other movie theatre in the universe. Ridiculous. I love TV but still ...

kathy

[ctmurray]

Originally Posted by kja966

I just interacted with the Villages Sun for a renewal of my subscription. I had to give a credit card number over the phone. I asked why no online presence and the ability to pay, suspend, and restart subscriptions online like 98% of publications. I was told they are a small town newspaper and that would destroy that image if they provided that service. It was all I could do not to laugh into the phone. The Sun is many things, an advertiser, housing brochure, lite news, but small town newspaper?
It got me thinking about the “computer” status here in TV.
Newspaper forces interaction on phone, limited hours and snail mail interactions.
The golf tee time system is badly in need of upgrade. Clunky interface, inability to see any open time on same day, generally looks like a 1990’s interface. The phone system is arcane and byzantine. A relative used to pride himself on setting up a tee time for a group of 12. With errors and redos it usually took him over an hour.
VCDD system somewhat better but government systems usually have limited functionality.
It is obvious that this is not a priority for the powers that be. I would think the convenience and 24 hour availability would more than pay for itself. Smoothing out tee time interfaces would make their job easier. Shopping cart technology is mature and affordable. Tee time apps, both Apple and Android are obvious needs. Even athena health care appointments on line non functional.
Just some rambling thoughts.

When I got here, 5 years ago, I was amazed that they had their own system for requesting tee times, and it worked for so many courses. Yes, it took me a bit to figure it out, but I joined a group where someone else did the work. But it never took them an hour. Since then I have set up the tee times myself, and it is not very hard.

And here is the real point, it works, and all the bugs have been fixed. Any new system would require lots of money and lots of time to make it work as error free. (The company I worked for had negative experiences moving away from existing HR and payroll systems to newer programs by third parties. Lots of money thrown down the toilet).

So a new system would be nice, but I worry about the cost and shakedown / debugging experience that we would all have to work through.

[JoMar]

The guys that handle our groups get tee times for a group of 24 and they do it online. If it took an hour they would stop doing it lol. I agree that it isn't the best system, heck it too a pandemic to improve the sign in at the golf courses. Not sure how upgrading would pay for it as stated, it's an expense, increase expenses requires an increase in revenue.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by kja966

I just interacted with the Villages Sun for a renewal of my subscription. I had to give a credit card number over the phone. I asked why no online presence and the ability to pay, suspend, and restart subscriptions online like 98% of publications. I was told they are a small town newspaper and that would destroy that image if they provided that service. It was all I could do not to laugh into the phone. The Sun is many things, an advertiser, housing brochure, lite news, but small town newspaper?
It got me thinking about the “computer” status here in TV.
Newspaper forces interaction on phone, limited hours and snail mail interactions.
The golf tee time system is badly in need of upgrade. Clunky interface, inability to see any open time on same day, generally looks like a 1990’s interface. The phone system is arcane and byzantine. A relative used to pride himself on setting up a tee time for a group of 12. With errors and redos it usually took him over an hour.
VCDD system somewhat better but government systems usually have limited functionality.
It is obvious that this is not a priority for the powers that be. I would think the convenience and 24 hour availability would more than pay for itself. Smoothing out tee time interfaces would make their job easier. Shopping cart technology is mature and affordable. Tee time apps, both Apple and Android are obvious needs. Even athena health care appointments on line non functional.
Just some rambling thoughts.

Agree, even my lawn care guy accepts online payments. Let my subscription expire for this reason, all my payments are on autopilot.

Also add a concern the systems likely do not have state of the art safeguards to prevent cyber attacks. Imagine the golf system locked down for ransom.

However, a real person answers the phone here, usually on the first ring. No endless loop phone answering systems. Paying for the human interaction vs technology probably is not a bad choice for this market.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by kja966

I just interacted with the Villages Sun for a renewal of my subscription. I had to give a credit card number over the phone.

LOL, funny you mention that. In every (normal) year I would renew my Happy News subscription at Market Night at LSL. Every time I offer my credit card they have to write it down on a small piece of paper to bring to the office to be charged the next day. There are FREE charge card scanners about 1" x 1" square (I even have one that I used on my previous part time "techy" business) that attaches to your cell phone ... every vendor has them .... not a big deal but definitely strange even for a "home town newspaper."

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The folks who make the decisions here [The Morse's] are not as techy as YOU [The OP]). Howsomeever, they sure do know a lot of stuff and ......................

And you know this how since you say you never met them ? I'd bet you you're wrong. I'm sure the "younger" side of "Da Familia" which is most of them now, knows very well how to handle "techy stuff". I'll bet they even have one of them thar comfuser pc boxes machines in their office and at least a flip phone or 2.

[bowlingal]

I pay by check

[Shadia328]

I agree. By the way, how about having Villages ID card on our phones? If the airlines can scan tickets that way, I would think this is possible.

[Tomptomp]

Really ? That bothered you. You must live a charmed life to give that so much thought.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by kja966

I just interacted with the Villages Sun for a renewal of my subscription. I had to give a credit card number over the phone. I asked why no online presence and the ability to pay, suspend, and restart subscriptions online like 98% of publications. I was told they are a small town newspaper and that would destroy that image if they provided that service. It was all I could do not to laugh into the phone. The Sun is many things, an advertiser, housing brochure, lite news, but small town newspaper?
It got me thinking about the “computer” status here in TV.
Newspaper forces interaction on phone, limited hours and snail mail interactions.
The golf tee time system is badly in need of upgrade. Clunky interface, inability to see any open time on same day, generally looks like a 1990’s interface. The phone system is arcane and byzantine. A relative used to pride himself on setting up a tee time for a group of 12. With errors and redos it usually took him over an hour.
VCDD system somewhat better but government systems usually have limited functionality.
It is obvious that this is not a priority for the powers that be. I would think the convenience and 24 hour availability would more than pay for itself. Smoothing out tee time interfaces would make their job easier. Shopping cart technology is mature and affordable. Tee time apps, both Apple and Android are obvious needs. Even athena health care appointments on line non functional.
Just some rambling thoughts.

Whats the big deal. I gave my credit card and also agreed to auto renewal. Never have to call again and subsciption just continues. Whats the big fuss all about???

[merrymini]

Letting my “Daily sunny news” expire without renewal. If they cannot recycle the newsprint, I will not buy the newsprint. Not much news anyway, just advertisement for themselves. However, time to get on board with technology, much agreed there.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

And you know this how since you say you never met them ? I'd bet you you're wrong. I'm sure the "younger" side of "Da Familia" which is most of them now, knows very well how to handle "techy stuff". I'll bet they even have one of them thar comfuser pc boxes machines in their office and at least a flip phone or 2.

I agree. The generation that's in control now grew up with computers. They are as old as our kids who fix our laptops and figure out how to take three remote controls and combine the functions into one.


My guess is they don't want to spend the money on the upgrades. Just like they won't spend the money on changing the outmoded gate card system.


If the Daily Sun had an online subscription to the entire newspaper, I'd buy it. But I don't want the hassle of spelling my name and giving my credit card out over the phone, and having to call to suspend service, blah, blah--all of which could and should be online.


I don't want to deal with all that paper, either. My morning cup of coffee is enjoyed with my online newspapers.


Rant over.

[Mrprez]

Newsprint is being recycled into electricity.