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I learned, from ARC, that installing pavers in front of the house - small paver area/patio within retaining wall - is not allowed. (retaining wall and stones allowed - - just no pavers)
I am unable to find any rule stating this is not allowed. I was advised this is an unpublished rule that was decided upon by the Developer (will be published upon next update to rules). Sort of like having a speed limit but it is not posted. You only find the rule/law out when pulled over by an Officer.
When I asked for the name of the Developer I was advised "we are not allowed to give out that information".
Is there a special curtain to pull back in order to find out who the Developer/Wizard is?

I surely want to abide by all the ARC rules . . . just think they should be posted for all to know.
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I learned, from ARC, that installing pavers in front of the house - small paver area/patio within retaining wall - is not allowed. (retaining wall and stones allowed - - just no pavers)
I am unable to find any rule stating this is not allowed. I was advised this is an unpublished rule that was decided upon by the Developer (will be published upon next update to rules). Sort of like having a speed limit but it is not posted. You only find the rule/law out when pulled over by an Officer.
When I asked for the name of the Developer I was advised "we are not allowed to give out that information".
Is there a special curtain to pull back in order to find out who the Developer/Wizard is?

I surely want to abide by all the ARC rules . . . just think they should be posted for all to know.
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Old 07-13-2022, 05:59 PM
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Gather you are new to the villages. Go to one of the new people meetings and you will learn all about this place. Dates published in the Sun.
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I learned, from ARC, that installing pavers in front of the house - small paver area/patio within retaining wall - is not allowed. (retaining wall and stones allowed - - just no pavers)
I am unable to find any rule stating this is not allowed. I was advised this is an unpublished rule that was decided upon by the Developer (will be published upon next update to rules). Sort of like having a speed limit but it is not posted. You only find the rule/law out when pulled over by an Officer.
When I asked for the name of the Developer I was advised "we are not allowed to give out that information".
Is there a special curtain to pull back in order to find out who the Developer/Wizard is?

I surely want to abide by all the ARC rules . . . just think they should be posted for all to know.
The Villages "Developer" is Director of Development Tommy McDonough.
His contact info:
Tommy McDonough
4450 N.E. 83rd Road | Wildwood, Florida 34785
Direct: 352.753.6219 | Fax: 352.753.6725
Email: Tommy.McDonough@thevillages.com

The Developer will not help you in this case. You need to look at your Deed Restrictions to see if pavers are allowed. If you feel they are allowed and ARC says they are not, you can appeal their decision to your District Board.

The Villages is owned and operated by the Morse Family under the corporation name The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc.

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Old 07-13-2022, 06:44 PM
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The Villages "Developer" is Tommy McDonough.
His contact info:
Tommy McDonough
4450 N.E. 83rd Road | Wildwood, Florida 34785
Direct: 352.753.6219 | Fax: 352.753.6725
Email: Tommy.McDonough@thevillages.com

The Developer will not help you in this case. You need to look at your Deed Restrictions to see if pavers are allowed. If you feel they are allowed and ARC says they are not, you can appeal their decision to your District Board.
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The Villages "Developer" is Tommy McDonough.
His contact info:
Tommy McDonough
4450 N.E. 83rd Road | Wildwood, Florida 34785
Direct: 352.753.6219 | Fax: 352.753.6725
Email: Tommy.McDonough@thevillages.com

The Developer will not help you in this case. You need to look at your Deed Restrictions to see if pavers are allowed. If you feel they are allowed and ARC says they are not, you can appeal their decision to your District Board.

Thank you so much for the info! ARC told me they did not make this rule - that the Developer did. . .and that it isn't published . . yet.
I am unable to find any documentation - in ARC rules nor Deed restrictions - about no pavers in a front patio setting.
I fully intend to abide by all rules - - officially published rules.
Again, thank you!!
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I learned, from ARC, that installing pavers in front of the house - small paver area/patio within retaining wall - is not allowed. (retaining wall and stones allowed - - just no pavers)
I am unable to find any rule stating this is not allowed. I was advised this is an unpublished rule that was decided upon by the Developer (will be published upon next update to rules). Sort of like having a speed limit but it is not posted. You only find the rule/law out when pulled over by an Officer.
When I asked for the name of the Developer I was advised "we are not allowed to give out that information".
Is there a special curtain to pull back in order to find out who the Developer/Wizard is?

I surely want to abide by all the ARC rules . . . just think they should be posted for all to know.
I think you're interpreting this situation, incorrectly.

The ARC has control over most any change to your home or grounds ... including landscaping and hardscaping.

In this case, the ARC has decided or been informed that "pavers" will not be "approved" ... no different if they decided a particular color was acceptable. It's not necessarily a written rule, it's just part & parcel of the approval process. If you present a plan that includes pavers, it's not going to be approved.

To my knowledge, there's no "rule" that prohibits statues of pink gargoyles, but you're probably not going to be approved, if you present a plan that shows such, in your front yard landscaping.

There's no Wizard or any curtain hiding the rules ... just read your Deed.
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KsJayhawkers: Thanks so much! I appreciate the 'top secret' information. The only reason I am seeking to further delve into this issue is due to the lack of transparency.
After doing my due diligence by reviewing deed restrictions and ARC rules, I simply wanted to see the written rule. According to my phone call with ARC, the rule isnt published . . . just yet. She stated "the Developer made this rule". I wasn't going down this road until she brought it up.
I should think that the rules we must abide by - which I agreed to when I bought here - then, at the very least, the "rules" should be published.
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I think you're interpreting this situation, incorrectly.

The ARC has control over most any change to your home or grounds ... including landscaping and hardscaping.

In this case, the ARC has decided or been informed that "pavers" will not be "approved" ... no different if they decided a particular color was acceptable. It's not necessarily a written rule, it's just part & parcel of the approval process. If you present a plan that includes pavers, it's not going to be approved.

To my knowledge, there's no "rule" that prohibits statues of pink gargoyles, but you're probably not going to be approved, if you present a plan that shows such, in your front yard landscaping.

There's no Wizard or any curtain hiding the rules ... just read your Deed.
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The Villages "Developer" is Tommy McDonough.
His contact info:
Tommy McDonough
4450 N.E. 83rd Road | Wildwood, Florida 34785
Direct: 352.753.6219 | Fax: 352.753.6725
Email: Tommy.McDonough@thevillages.com
That is definitely not "the developer."
This is: The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc, 3619 Kiessel Road, The Villages, FL 32163.
Mark Morse, President and CEO
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I learned, from ARC, that installing pavers in front of the house - small paver area/patio within retaining wall - is not allowed. (retaining wall and stones allowed - - just no pavers)
I am unable to find any rule stating this is not allowed. I was advised this is an unpublished rule that was decided upon by the Developer (will be published upon next update to rules). Sort of like having a speed limit but it is not posted. You only find the rule/law out when pulled over by an Officer.
When I asked for the name of the Developer I was advised "we are not allowed to give out that information".
Is there a special curtain to pull back in order to find out who the Developer/Wizard is?

I surely want to abide by all the ARC rules . . . just think they should be posted for all to know.
What District (CDD) are you in? If you are in the very newest area then it is possible that the area is not yet turned over to a CDD and still "owned" or "controlled" by the Developer. If that is the case then the rules and restrictions for your area may not yet be final.

If you are not in one of the newer areas then you can look your deed restrictions on districtgov.org (perhaps you have already done that). The ARC must follow those restrictions - if it isn't written and signed then it doesn't exist. The ARC cannot deny something because of a new rule that might be coming in the future.

On the other hand, the ARC is not likely to just roll over because you question them and the cost for fighting this might be more than it is really worth.
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Need more information, what district (new development?)(which developer hasn’t soldout to a district?) and what type of layout, CYV, designer. I can tell in my district in CYV you can practically paver ( rectangle stone) the whole front yard
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Better stated elsewhere.

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New Resident Night and the Golf Cart Safety clinic are a MUST for new residents. NO charge and are given every month. Make it your business to attend both for your and everyone else's safety and CORRECT information.
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Old 07-14-2022, 05:28 AM
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Good lord, things might be better in The Land Of Dorothy.
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