[CoachKandSportsguy]

UHC Insurance CEO got murdered outside his Hilton Hotel this morning. Shot in the back and then several times while on the ground, by a person on a city bike, using a silencer. A video has been released.

His wife said he had been getting threats, and she wasn't clear, but said it might have to do with "lack of coverage."

He was going to his company's investor day

People getting pretty irritated at UHC with the highest denial rate in the industry.
Somebody probably lost a loved one and possibly got bankrupted. .

And in other health insurance news recently, Blue Cross Blue Shield of several states said that they will not completely pay for anesthesiologists services during surgery over a certain length of time

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Won’t Pay for the Complete Duration of Anesthesia for Patients’ Surgical Procedures

Gotta make those profit numbers for the company's stock option plans!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Get used to it.

[tophcfa]

Very sad. I’m typically against government regulations, but when corporate profits conflict with peoples ability to get necessary health care, adequate checks and balances need to be in place.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

UHC Insurance CEO got murdered outside his Hilton Hotel this morning. Shot in the back and then several times while on the ground, by a person on a city bike, using a silencer. A video has been released.

His wife said he had been getting threats, and she wasn't clear, but said it might have to do with "lack of coverage."

He was going to his company's investor day

People getting pretty irritated at UHC with the highest denial rate in the industry.
Somebody probably lost a loved one and possibly got bankrupted. .

And in other health insurance news recently, Blue Cross Blue Shield of several states said that they will not completely pay for anesthesiologists services during surgery over a certain length of time

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Won’t Pay for the Complete Duration of Anesthesia for Patients’ Surgical Procedures

Gotta make those profit numbers for the company's stock option plans!

So, he deserved to be murdered?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Caymus

So, he deserved to be murdered?

so how did you jump from facts on a page to a judgement about my intent with supporting murder?

just because I dislike the conflict inherent in the country's insurance industry, doesn't mean i support murder. . . what it means is that the health insurance situation is getting obviously out of control, which risks ****ing off the wrong person and causing violence and chaos, especially in today's world where law enforcement is much weaker than during other times in history. That is not a good scenario for peace and freedom.

The two items are linked by the financialization and greed within our corporate world, allowed by lax anti trust enforcement, and business school theories and consultant recommendations on how to maximize profits. . as stated, not by murder. . .

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

so how did you jump from facts on a page to a judgement about my intent with supporting murder?

just because I dislike the conflict inherent in the country's insurance industry, doesn't mean i support murder. . . what it means is that the health insurance situation is getting obviously out of control, which risks ****ing off the wrong person and causing violence and chaos, especially in today's world where law enforcement is much weaker than during other times in history. That is not a good scenario for peace and freedom.

The two items are linked by the financialization and greed within our corporate world, allowed by lax anti trust enforcement, and business school theories and consultant recommendations on how to maximize profits. . as stated, not by murder. . .

Just wondering what law enforcement could have done to prevent this murder?

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Just wondering what law enforcement could have done to prevent this murder?

To answer your question, Nothing. This was planned now police say he wrote several words on the bullets. including Deny

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

UHC Insurance CEO got murdered outside his Hilton Hotel this morning. Shot in the back and then several times while on the ground, by a person on a city bike, using a silencer. A video has been released.

His wife said he had been getting threats, and she wasn't clear, but said it might have to do with "lack of coverage."

He was going to his company's investor day

People getting pretty irritated at UHC with the highest denial rate in the industry.
Somebody probably lost a loved one and possibly got bankrupted. .

And in other health insurance news recently, Blue Cross Blue Shield of several states said that they will not completely pay for anesthesiologists services during surgery over a certain length of time

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Won’t Pay for the Complete Duration of Anesthesia for Patients’ Surgical Procedures

Gotta make those profit numbers for the company's stock option plans!

Nothing to do with health care/treatment should be included in the stock market...nothing! How pathetic is it to sit back and take money off those who are ill or in need of treatment?

That being said, I believe personally that the Medicare Advantage for which so many of you have signed up to get the cheap "goodies", good luck. This coverage has been exhaustingly pushed this sign up season because once they get the majority of seniors on this plan, they will do away with original Medicare. And then, we are all back to the same scenario of battling private insurance companies for coverages.

The more we age, how capable are we to fight for healthcare, coverages and medications? Why do you think sales representatives receive greater reimbursement for every Advantage plan they sell vs regular Medicare plan with a supplemental plan?

Many hospitals and physicians won't care for Medicare Advantage patients and have dropped out of the plan now due to "insurance managed health care treatments" that are occurring.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

so how did you jump from facts on a page to a judgement about my intent with supporting murder?

just because I dislike the conflict inherent in the country's insurance industry, doesn't mean i support murder. . . what it means is that the health insurance situation is getting obviously out of control, which risks ****ing off the wrong person and causing violence and chaos, especially in today's world where law enforcement is much weaker than during other times in history. That is not a good scenario for peace and freedom.

The two items are linked by the financialization and greed within our corporate world, allowed by lax anti trust enforcement, and business school theories and consultant recommendations on how to maximize profits. . as stated, not by murder. . .

That "corporate greed" of which you speak is the stock market. The stock market has created a huge "something for nothing" premise and health care is only part of it all.

[Rainger99]

Insurance companies deny claims all the time - whether it is health insurance, home insurance, or auto insurance.

We need an unbiased system that provides a quick review of any denial by insurance companies - with penalties for improper denials.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Aces4

That "corporate greed" of which you speak is the stock market. The stock market has created a huge "something for nothing" premise and health care is only part of it all.

so a reword of my initial point of corporate greed, but you didn't really answer the question on how you you jumped to my supporting murder, does it?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Aces4

That "corporate greed" of which you speak is the stock market. The stock market has created a huge "something for nothing" premise and health care is only part of it all.

I am not at all sure of there is Corporate Greed or companies running in the black.

I know this about Health Care, or I think I do anyway. Private Health Care offers finer health care and more skilled health care than socialized medicine. Doctors from all over the world are moving here because they can make more money. I know this for a fact. A person I know in Austria had to wait several months to get her mastectomy after being diagnosed with breast cancer. Nothing is ever just black and white.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

so a reword of my initial point of corporate greed, but you didn't really answer the question on how you you jumped to my supporting murder, does it?

You might be losing your edge, you're barking up the wrong tree. That wasn't my post that suggested that thought.

Try Caymus's post.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am not at all sure of there is Corporate Greed or companies running in the black.

I know this about Health Care, or I think I do anyway. Private Health Care offers finer health care and more skilled health care than socialized medicine. Doctors from all over the world are moving here because they can make more money. I know this for a fact. A person I know in Austria had to wait several months to get her mastectomy after being diagnosed with breast cancer. Nothing is ever just black and white.

You missed the point, we can have even better private health care WITHOUT the stock market which causes overcharging of every supply and treatment of health issues because people sitting on the sideline want a handout from your illness. It's a joke, IMHO.

[New Englander]

This is a very high profile murder and I think it will be solved very quickly. I feel sorry for the man and his family.