[dewilson58]

The Creek is in great condition.

Playing it now, before it gets too hot.................no shade.

Crazy starter this morning:
Our tee time was 8am.
The 7:44 two-some showed up about five minutes before their tee time.
They asked if they could go out later so they could warm up a bit.
We (two-some) said we can out go at 7:44 if they want to go at 8am.
They said that would be great.
The starter said no.
Really?!?!?!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The Creek is in great condition.

Playing it now, before it gets too hot.................no shade.

Crazy starter this morning:
Our tee time was 8am.
The 7:44 two-some showed up about five minutes before their tee time.
They asked if they could go out later so they could warm up a bit.
We (two-some) said we can out go at 7:44 if they want to go at 8am.
They said that would be great.
The starter said no.
Really?!?!?!

How about the opposite today, not at Shallow Creek. We were a foursome, but the other 2 that we didn't know came a bit early and wanted to go out because they "were in a hurry" When we teed off on #1 (350 par 4) they were just chipping onto the green. They were on the slow side, we waited on them at least 80% of our shots but could never catch up. But watching them, we were glad we didn't---even though they were playing from the girlie tees, they would wait for the group ahead to get over 300 yards out before they hit---and on par 4's of under 320 they waited for the green to clear. It then took them 4 or 5 shots to get there. THAT would have driven us nuts, so it was worth waiting on them not to have played with them. However, in general, I don't think it is right for the starter to split a foursome to send 2 people out 5 minutes earlier.

[alwann]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

How about the opposite today, not at Shallow Creek. We were a foursome, but the other 2 that we didn't know came a bit early and wanted to go out because they "were in a hurry" When we teed off on #1 (350 par 4) they were just chipping onto the green. They were on the slow side, we waited on them at least 80% of our shots but could never catch up. But watching them, we were glad we didn't---even though they were playing from the girlie tees, they would wait for the group ahead to get over 300 yards out before they hit---and on par 4's of under 320 they waited for the green to clear. It then took them 4 or 5 shots to get there. THAT would have driven us nuts, so it was worth waiting on them not to have played with them. However, in general, I don't think it is right for the starter to split a foursome to send 2 people out 5 minutes earlier.

Same thing with letting a faster twosome or a single play through. Was told doing this makes it difficult for the ambassador to track pace of play.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by alwann

Same thing with letting a faster twosome or a single play through. Was told doing this makes it difficult for the ambassador to track pace of play.

Thanks for the late-afternoon laugh....."ambassadors tracking pace of play".

They might track pace, but 99.4% of them do nothing about slow play.

If they do track pace, allowing a twosome or single play-thru does not complicate tracking.
The ambass might have to think, but every group is still trackable.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The Creek is in great condition.

Playing it now, before it gets too hot.................no shade.

Crazy starter this morning:
Our tee time was 8am.
The 7:44 two-some showed up about five minutes before their tee time.
They asked if they could go out later so they could warm up a bit.
We (two-some) said we can out go at 7:44 if they want to go at 8am.
They said that would be great.
The starter said no.
Really?!?!?!

Despite the no shade thing I agree that the creek is in great condition. If I’m going to make the long trek south to play a Champ I would select the creek over the oaks every time. As far as the starter, that’s typical. The system they are instructed to run requires the names and times in the system to line up with play on the course. Otherwise they would have to cancel everyone’s scheduled tee times in the system and rebook the players under a different time. That happened to me one time when someone in our foursome showed up late and the starter shuffled our tee time with the group after us. When I checked my play history on the system it showed that I canceled a tee time and then rebooked another. Some starters are willing to do that and apparently others are not?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Despite the no shade thing I agree that the creek is in great condition. If I’m going to make the long trek south to play a Champ I would select the creek over the oaks every time. As far as the starter, that’s typical. The system they are instructed to run requires the names and times in the system to line up with play on the course. Otherwise they would have to cancel everyone’s scheduled tee times in the system and rebook the players under a different time. That happened to me one time when someone in our foursome showed up late and the starter shuffled our tee time with the group after us. When I checked my play history on the system it showed that I canceled a tee time and then rebooked another. Some starters are willing to do that and apparently others are not?

This guy was jus lazy.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by alwann

Same thing with letting a faster twosome or a single play through. Was told doing this makes it difficult for the ambassador to track pace of play.

I think any ambassador is able to figure out that Mr DeWilson58 is one hole ahead of where he should be because he and another 2 some swapped start times.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

I think any ambassador is able to figure out that Mr DeWilson58 is one hole ahead of where he should be because he and another 2 some swapped start times.

Actually the solutions is EXTREMELY SIMPLE.

The starter just had to switch the cart colors on his sheet since the Ambass had not copied the information down yet. Except for the fact that I'm so handsome, the Ambass would have been clueless.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The Creek is in great condition.

Playing it now, before it gets too hot.................no shade.

Crazy starter this morning:
Our tee time was 8am.
The 7:44 two-some showed up about five minutes before their tee time.
They asked if they could go out later so they could warm up a bit.
We (two-some) said we can out go at 7:44 if they want to go at 8am.
They said that would be great.
The starter said no.
Really?!?!?!

Wins the flexibility award for the day. NOT

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The Creek is in great condition.

Playing it now, before it gets too hot.................no shade.

Crazy starter this morning:
Our tee time was 8am.
The 7:44 two-some showed up about five minutes before their tee time.
They asked if they could go out later so they could warm up a bit.
We (two-some) said we can out go at 7:44 if they want to go at 8am.
They said that would be great.
The starter said no.
Really?!?!?!

Unless the other twosome were only playing 9 holes, I can’t imagine why the starter would object.

[Mrmean58]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The Creek is in great condition.

Playing it now, before it gets too hot.................no shade.

Crazy starter this morning:
Our tee time was 8am.
The 7:44 two-some showed up about five minutes before their tee time.
They asked if they could go out later so they could warm up a bit.
We (two-some) said we can out go at 7:44 if they want to go at 8am.
They said that would be great.
The starter said no.
Really?!?!?!

Lazy starter. Let a staff lead know.

[Rwirish]

Perhaps they were playing the senior tees as their distance has declined with age. Don’t worry, you will get to the “girlie” tees soon enough!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Rwirish

Perhaps they were playing the senior tees as their distance has declined with age. Don’t worry, you will get to the “girlie” tees soon enough!

They weren't very old. And if their distance had "declined", there is no need to wait on a 320-yard par 4.

PS: I plan to get to the girlie tees when I'm about 98 years old

[Rocksnap]

Been playing Shallow Creek & Southern Oak lately. Both are in fantastic shape, so everyone go north to play elseware!
Tee’d off starting on 10 yesterday at SO. Started wanted us literally right in front of the starter shack to release us. Me there with the rest of our group just off to the side just wasn’t good enough. Weird, weird. Never saw a Marshall on course, play was backed up.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Been playing Shallow Creek & Southern Oak lately. Both are in fantastic shape, so everyone go north to play elseware!
Tee’d off starting on 10 yesterday at SO. Started wanted us literally right in front of the starter shack to release us. Me there with the rest of our group just off to the side just wasn’t good enough. Weird, weird. Never saw a Marshall on course, play was backed up.

99% of starters and ambassadors are great. A few let their pencil and clipboard send them on a power trip.