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Old 07-19-2011, 09:31 PM
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Here is the entire section from Article 5 of our Constitution:

Methods Of Ammendment
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

The Republican Party has 55% of the seats in the House. Even if they all vote for a "Balanced Budget Amendment" it won't make it to the Senate.

They are so busy complaining about higher taxes, they don't stop to think how much tax payer money they are wasting pursuing hopeless causes.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:08 PM
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Here is the entire section from Article 5 of our Constitution:

Methods Of Ammendment
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

The Republican Party has 55% of the seats in the House. Even if they all vote for a "Balanced Budget Amendment" it won't make it to the Senate.

They are so busy complaining about higher taxes, they don't stop to think how much tax payer money they are wasting pursuing hopeless causes.
I know I am a broken record but if we all vote republican in 2012 and we will get a balanced budget amendment.

It is that simple.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:29 AM
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I know I am a broken record but if we all vote republican in 2012 and we will get a balanced budget amendment.

It is that simple.
How long will it take for the states to ratify such an amendment? History says that IF Constitutional amendments are eventually adopted, it can take a very long time for state ratification to occur. Do you realize that it took 202 years for the original Article I to be ratified?

Very few of the Constitutional amendments passed by the Congress ever get ratified. Do you realize that the Equal Rights amendment, the Child Labor Law amendment, even the original Bill of Rights have never been ratified by the required number of states?

Then there's the question of whether the required three-quarters of the states would vote for such an amendment. It would take 38 states to ratify such an amendment. Only 12 states failing to ratify would make all this sturm and drang a decade-long exercise in futility. Want to start counting the states that would almost certainly fail to ratify the amendment? Start with New York, New Jersey, Illinois, California, Florida...what's that, five already?

Wouldn't it be more effective to continue to get fiscal conservatives elected to the Congress, then nick away at the defict and debt...maybe even hack away at it...over a longer period of time, doing less damage to the economy than an ill-thought out action such as the Cut, Cap and Balance bill (which includes the requirement for a Constitutional amendment) would have?
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:40 PM
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I know I am a broken record but if we all vote republican in 2012 and we will get a balanced budget amendment.

It is that simple.
Yes we should all vote Republican in 2012 cause you all were so fiscally conservative the last time. I remember that!!!
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:44 PM
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Yes we should all vote Republican in 2012 cause you all were so fiscally conservative the last time. I remember that!!!
Everybody believed the good-looking articulate colored kid.

We goofed.

C
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:53 PM
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Everybody believed the good-looking articulate colored kid.

We goofed.

C
Yeah, but remember what the alternative was.

Where are those people now? What do I hear them saying about the current fiscal crisis? Maybe they're keeping their mouths shut so as not to say something as dumb as relying on advice from Joe the Plumber.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:56 PM
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Everybody believed the good-looking articulate colored kid.

We goofed.

C
Vowed I wouldn't post here again....but "colored kid"? I can't believe anyone even uses that racist label anymore.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:21 PM
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Vowed I wouldn't post here again....but "colored kid"? I can't believe anyone even uses that racist label anymore.
Why is it racist?
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:14 PM
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Why is it racist?
My god, if you don't know or don't think so nothing I could ever say would enlighten you.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:31 PM
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My god, if you don't know or don't think so nothing I could ever say would enlighten you.
Why can't you just explain instead of insulting me?
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:50 PM
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Here is the entire section from Article 5 of our Constitution:

Methods Of Ammendment
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

The Republican Party has 55% of the seats in the House. Even if they all vote for a "Balanced Budget Amendment" it won't make it to the Senate.

They are so busy complaining about higher taxes, they don't stop to think how much tax payer money they are wasting pursuing hopeless causes.
So are you saying if the odds are not in your favor but you know you are in the right, that you would give up your fight and give in to your adversaries?

Not a very American point of view.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:58 PM
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Everybody believed the good-looking articulate colored kid.

We goofed.

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racist or a fool. Which is it?
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:06 PM
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Colored kid???? What year is this???
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:09 PM
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Colored kid???? What year is this???
I guess it is not in vogue this year. Maybe next year. Hard to tell because political correctness is constantly changing it's vocabulary criteria.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:26 PM
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I guess it is not in vogue this year. Maybe next year. Hard to tell because political correctness is constantly changing it's vocabulary criteria.
Blue Heron gets upset about the word idiot and the use of this word is ok with you? We could be using another word here.
 


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