I found this part of the debate interesting.....how does a seeming Pro_Life crowd get to be Pro_Death?

http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archive...mpa-gop-debate

Talk about a death panel!!!!

Cologal is right again!

Under the comments of the link she provided was this following comment:

"Remember: Tea Partiers are almost universally are pro-life. Then you enter the world and at 30 you lack health insurance, have some kind of accident and end up needing expensive life-saving care. The Tea Party response? "Go .... yourself. No one told you to be born in the first place!" Of course, I would expect nothing less from a group of people who protest "government run health care" while riding Medicare-supplied scooters."


As you can see, Americans are seeing that the Tea Party is NOT what America wants or needs.

The demonization of the Tea Party movement will fail. Pointing to something that a candidate says that has nothing to do with Tea Party objectives is very dishonest. The people will see that.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The demonization of the Tea Party movement will fail. Pointing to something that a candidate says that has nothing to do with Tea Party objectives is very dishonest. The people will see that.

Richie.... I am clearly confused by your response.....Did the debate crowd last night indicate that they supported allowing the man in the coma without health insurance to die.

Its a yes or no question. Thats what I heard.

Take away some of the inflammatory rhetoric and you COULD be left with the desire to have the Tea Party supporters simply THINK THROUGH the consequences of acting on their stated desires.

It's just a new version of the old "cut the OTHER guy's pork - mine's necessary" thinking.

The Tea Part wants to cut small potatoes while ignoring many of the HUGE ticket items - and by the same token, Obama contributes to the Social Security problem by continuing the ill-conceived payroll tax cut that does nothing but move up the time that Social Security runs out of T-Bills to cash in! (remember, we still got a HUGE increase in jobs when Reagan compromised with Tip O'Neill and hiked the FICA tax to temporarily 'save' Social Security so the "it'll kill jobs" argument rings hollow)

Originally Posted by cologal

Richie.... I am clearly confused by your response.....Did the debate crowd last night indicate that they supported allowing the man in the coma without health insurance to die.

Its a yes or no question. Thats what I heard.

The Tea Party objectives have nothing to do with your query. Just because people attracted to the Tea Party's objective comprise a majority who are pro-life (count me in), it is not part of the "Tea Party Platform" or it's political objectives. It's a separate issue that has been with us for many, many years.

http://theteaparty.net/index.asp

Of course that is what you heard, Cologal. That is what was said. The Tea Party crowd did support having the 30 year old in a coma die rather than receive treatment on someone else's dime. That is also exactly what Ron Paul said.

Sounds kind of cold, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by buggyone

Of course that is what you heard, Cologal. That is what was said. The Tea Party crowd did support having the 30 year old in a coma die rather than receive treatment on someone else's dime. That is also exactly what Ron Paul said.

Sounds kind of cold, doesn't it?

A "few members" (of the audience) yelled "yeah", at the asked question, not the candidate's response, about a man who refuses to buy health care and now requires extraordinary care, being left to his own deivices, and that comprises the whole of the Tea Party?

The audience only applauded when Ron Paul spoke for people taking personal responsibility for their lives.

Really grasping for straws here, you guys.

The demonization express is chugging away...............

Originally Posted by cologal

I found this part of the debate interesting.....how does a seeming Pro_Life crowd get to be Pro_Death?

http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archive...mpa-gop-debate

Talk about a death panel!!!!

methinks you mis-characterize this exercise. This is a choice of pro-life vis a vis pro-death but rather a pro-life pro-choice scenario and a proper one.

It is perfectly fine with me if a 30 something decides to end his/her life by either ignoring insurance coverage or living a risky life, i.e. speeding, drinking illegal drugs, promiscuous sexual propensities.

It is quite another to have another person make a decision for a human being before that human being has an opportunity to speak for him or herself.

The comparison shown during the debate were mis-leading and I am surprised not one of the candidates jumped on this

Like most special interest groups, the few prejudiced anti Tea Party folk, seek out only the negatives.

How about the rest of what the Tea Party or anybody proposes that is positive? That is intended to be for the betterment of our Country?

I know. Why would anybody want to promote the majority good stuff...it does not work for or against a partisan need to regurgitate on any subject they choose to underscore.

Of course one can be against abortion but for capital punishment of the guilty.

The two issues are so not related it is quite amusing to watch some create a bridge between the two.

It can only be meaningful on a case by case, specific example. Lumping into a broad category to make a general statement doesn't work for too many controversial issues.

Trying to make a right or wrong assignation via a political position is so.....POLITICAL!!! Hence has nothing to do with right or wrong. Just promoting the party line.

btk

Here is my take on the tea party and the debate. It seems that the tea party is anti-choice but its ok to let a grown adult die. They have a resentment against what they see as freeloaders,illegals and baby-killers. The audience last night was a disgrace. Some of you talk exceptionalism, I saw none last night. It was a digusting display of humanity. They cheer at Perrys 234 executions and now applaud to the uninsured dying as punishment. Then they boo Ron Paul for his explaination of the 911 attack. These are my fellow Americans...ignorant,bloodthirsty,clueless mob.And CNN gives them authenticity bu putting them on? I do believe the tea party is in the early stages of a naxi-like party.
Mitt Romney"a savings account for healthcare" really? or...the problem with healthcare is that sick people dont know how much it costs.....are you kidding me?

Anger management. I wonder how much it costs and do insurance companies cover it?

Originally Posted by waynet

Here is my take on the tea party and the debate. It seems that the tea party is anti-choice but its ok to let a grown adult die. They have a resentment against what they see as freeloaders,illegals and baby-killers. The audience last night was a disgrace. Some of you talk exceptionalism, I saw none last night. It was a digusting display of humanity. They cheer at Perrys 234 executions and now applaud to the uninsured dying as punishment. Then they boo Ron Paul for his explaination of the 911 attack. These are my fellow Americans...ignorant,bloodthirsty,clueless mob.And CNN gives them authenticity bu putting them on? I do believe the tea party is in the early stages of a naxi-like party.
Mitt Romney"a savings account for healthcare" really? or...the problem with healthcare is that sick people dont know how much it costs.....are you kidding me?

You post is ludicrous in it's entirety. There's not one grain of rational observational thought in any of it. It's all nonsense of the likes I rarely see.

This gotta be obvious flaming.........really.

Originally Posted by waynet

Here is my take on the tea party and the debate. It seems that the tea party is anti-choice but its ok to let a grown adult die. They have a resentment against what they see as freeloaders,illegals and baby-killers. The audience last night was a disgrace. Some of you talk exceptionalism, I saw none last night. It was a digusting display of humanity. They cheer at Perrys 234 executions and now applaud to the uninsured dying as punishment. Then they boo Ron Paul for his explaination of the 911 attack. These are my fellow Americans...ignorant,bloodthirsty,clueless mob.And CNN gives them authenticity bu putting them on? I do believe the tea party is in the early stages of a naxi-like party.
Mitt Romney"a savings account for healthcare" really? or...the problem with healthcare is that sick people dont know how much it costs.....are you kidding me?

stop stop stop. You caught me when you said that it seems that the tea party is anti-choice. You may accuse me of taking this out of context but what the hell. If the truth be known the Democratic party and the liberal progressives there in are willing to give you the choice as to whether you want to have a child or not. (A.k.a. abortion)

that's the only choice that they want to give you. They want to control every aspect of your life from cradle-to-grave. They are willing to pay for it. With other people's money. But for you to have the audacity to say that the tea party is anti-choice is just totally ludicrous. Is abortion a choice in the first place? Sure it is. The tea party people just don't like that choice. There is really nothing they can do about it. It is established law.

I think that it is time that we take abortion off the table. It is nothing but a political hack job. Stupid Republicans will fight against. Stupid liberals will fight for it. Notice that I classify them both as stupid. This is something that has to be taken up with your with your God. Get it off the table.

Just some thoughts.

I am not flaming anyone. I wrote my observations on last nights debate being as honest as I can. I understand some will disagree with me and attempt to smear my post. It does not matter,those were my thoughts and feelings,what can I say. I will repeat that I found the audience despicable in their behaviors. Some of you can disparage my remarks but I honestly believe the tea party is bad for America.