Originally Posted by cabo35

POSTED BY CABO IN 2009 -In order to make any sense out of the bizarre spending policies of the Obama administration, you have to take time to study the Cloward/Piven strategy. Cloward and Piven were radical political scientists at Columbia in the mid-60's.

Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation... http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6967 Search Cloward Piven.....Click Cloward Piven Strategy

The Cloward/Piven Strategy advocates forcing change through crisis. What do you think TOTV posters, beginning to sound familiar. The radical duo called for bankrupting the welfare system by forcing more and more entitlements. Cities were targeted to "flood-the-rolls", break the public coffers and create chaos. The idea was to collapse our entire system of government and pave the way for pure socialism.

Activist groups pushing the Cloward/Piven scheme popped up in cities across the country. One such group, the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), founded by African-American militant George Alvin Wiley, was successful in the bankrupting of New York City in 1975. Other groups were formed led by guess who?????? Would you believe a cult called A.C.O.R.N

These movements rely heavily on financial support from...guess who?????
Would you have guessed George Soros?

In its earliest form, the Cloward-Piven strategy applied Alinsky's principle to the specific area of welfare entitlements. It counseled activists to create what might be called Trojan Horse movements - mass movements whose outward purpose seemed to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real purpose was to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers.http://cloward-piven.com/

Oh... it doesn't stop there. The mobilization of the masses to over burden government resources provided a perfect storm that was parlayed into "voter rights" movements in urban areas. These movements are identified with voter registration campaigns, aided by unions and are tainted with corruption, fraud, bullying and intimidation by union thugs and other despicable un-American tactics. Hmmm....do you remember recent elections and tea parties tainted by Black Panther Party intimidation and union bulls beating a black man? Of course the Republican Party was the beneficiary of all this mobilization. Just testing to see if you are paying attention.

TOTV posters, do not assume that the economic blunders of the Obama administration are the product of inexperience. That is what they want you to think. Try viewing them through the prism of the Cloward/Piven Strategy tempered with Sal Alinsky and Karl Marx.

The bank busting, economy destroying Obama Healthcare Plan, Cap and Trade (TAX) suddenly makes more sense when connected with the Cloward/Piven Strategy. In one swoop, the goal of bankrupting and collapsing the system will be achieved. Call me crazy but from my abstract, minority perspective, there seems to be some insidious logic in the process.

Hmmmm.....(thinking out loud) How does the Great Global Warming Fraud fit into this equation?

Any defenders of Cloward/Pivens who care to make their case....by all means...go for it. Opposing views always welcome and on occasion, intentionally provoked.

There are copious references to Cloward/Piven on line. I've paraphrased a few and supplemented them with my own views and words. I like one that appears, although I am not certain, to come from A.C.O.R.N. http://cloward-piven.com/

Other references, some previously cited, include:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6967 Search Cloward Piven and Click Cloward Piven Strategy

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...tegy_of_e.html

Google is a wonderful thing. Have fun with Cloward/Piven

It has been almost two years since I made this post. I welcomed opposing views and defenders of the Obama administration to respond. Debate is healthy. Funny thing.......no takers in almost two years. Soooo.....anyone else see a pattern yet or like Don Quixote, am I tilting with windmills......no disrespect to the green energy crowd intended......naaaa.....it was intended. That is for another post of its own.

Does "flooding the roles" with illegal immigrants, am I allowed to use that term, accomplish the Cloward-Piven goal to "break the public coffers and create chaos. The idea was to collapse our entire system of government and pave the way for pure socialism."

What a target rich environment to debate the liberal left.....but....no takers....yet. My mother, a Boston Democrat worked on JFK's campaign. My father was a Goldwater conservative. Table talk was always interesting. I learned tolerance and respect for all views, even those inconsistent with my own.

I'm headed for the bunker now.

Maybe a water purifier is not such a bad idea, after all.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Maybe a water purifier is not such a bad idea, after all.

Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.

Dostoevsky, Fyodor

It is also the last refuge and tool of those without an intelligent rebuttal.

Cabo

Well, there will be no debate because the right sees it and the left denies it. The OLM (old left media) will not talk about it and the right already know it so all we can do is keep repeating over and over again.

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA VOTE NOBAMA 2012

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Well, there will be no debate because the right sees it and the left denies it. The OLM (old left media) will not talk about it and the right already know it so all we can do is keep repeating over and over again.

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA

Obama Is destroying the USA VOTE NOBAMA 2012

Since you have such a dislike for Obama and after reading many of your posts, I am starting to have second thoughts. He can't be that bad, so maybe he is just what this country needs.

VG is so full of hate..Still won't own up to his true party affiliation...Come on over to the winning side my tea party friend..we'll help bring out the loving side of you...

If I were living in Pennecamp, I definitely would buy a whole house water filtration system.

Originally Posted by buggyone

If I were living in Pennecamp, I definitely would buy a whole house water filtration system.

Compliments of Cabo35: Boldness in lettering is mine.

Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.

Dostoevsky, Fyodor

It is also the last refuge and tool of those without an intelligent rebuttal.

Cabo

Originally Posted by buggyone

Maybe a water purifier is not such a bad idea, after all.

"The sign of a lazy mind is going to platitudes... "

Originally Posted by hrp01

VG is so full of hate..Still won't own up to his true party affiliation...Come on over to the winning side my tea party friend..we'll help bring out the loving side of you...

Yes, I do hate to see my once beautiful and prosperous country going down the tubes.

Yes, I hate to see millions of people without jobs because of this administration's policies.

Yes, I hate it when the commander in chief tells the enemy when we are leaving the battlefields.

I could go on and on but what's the point, your mind is closed, your soul could be corrupt?

Originally Posted by The Villager II

Since you have such a dislike for Obama and after reading many of your posts, I am starting to have second thoughts. He can't be that bad, so maybe he is just what this country needs.

Read the above definition of sarcasm and about intelligent rebuttals.

VOTE NOBAMA 20012

Originally Posted by cabo35

It has been almost two years since I made this post. I welcomed opposing views and defenders of the Obama administration to respond. Debate is healthy. Funny thing.......no takers in almost two years. Soooo.....anyone else see a pattern yet or like Don Quixote, am I tilting with windmills......no disrespect to the green energy crowd intended......naaaa.....it was intended. That is for another post of its own.

Does "flooding the roles" with illegal immigrants, am I allowed to use that term, accomplish the Cloward-Piven goal to "break the public coffers and create chaos. The idea was to collapse our entire system of government and pave the way for pure socialism."

What a target rich environment to debate the liberal left.....but....no takers....yet. My mother, a Boston Democrat worked on JFK's campaign. My father was a Goldwater conservative. Table talk was always interesting. I learned tolerance and respect for all views, even those inconsistent with my own.

I'm headed for the bunker now.

cabo 35. Well done! Thankfully the majority of Americans see the danger in such thinking and eventually return to their senses.

But what we need now is a return to insisting on compliance based on the U.S. Constitution so that we can recover many of the freedoms we have lost along the way

posts are so belittling of the President of the United States, efforts to change
a pre-Obama administration, years of pandering to the wealthy, you make my
stomach hurt. Sadder still, your hate could be catching. Very sad indeed.
Launch your own party, let's see what you stand for, let's see what you can
accomplish. I am somewhat shocked that the moderators allow you to continue the blithe hate you spew. If I was with the CIA for sure I'd have you on my radar.

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

posts are so belittling of the President of the United States, efforts to change
a pre-Obama administration, years of pandering to the wealthy, you make my
stomach hurt. Sadder still, your hate could be catching. Very sad indeed.
Launch your own party, let's see what you stand for, let's see what you can
accomplish. I am somewhat shocked that the moderators allow you to continue the blithe hate you spew. If I was with the CIA for sure I'd have you on my radar.

hate? to what are you referring?

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

posts are so belittling of the President of the United States, efforts to change
a pre-Obama administration, years of pandering to the wealthy, you make my
stomach hurt. Sadder still, your hate could be catching. Very sad indeed.
Launch your own party, let's see what you stand for, let's see what you can
accomplish. I am somewhat shocked that the moderators allow you to continue the blithe hate you spew. If I was with the CIA for sure I'd have you on my radar.

What the heck are you talking about? Tbugs: you better check the water.