Why a gunrunning scandal codenamed “Fast and Furious,” a program run secretly by the U.S. government that sent thousands of firearms over an international border and directly into the hands of criminals, hasn’t been pursued by an army of reporters all trying to be the next Bob Woodward or Carl Bernstein is a story in itself.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...mas-watergate/


The liberal press was hoping this scandal would go away. If Bush was President this would be front page head lines every day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IC2C2lIwNSA

It's a wonderment to me that more political pressure has been forthcoming to get to the bottom of this incredible and stupid scheme conducted by the Obama Administration which resulted in thousands of guns being sent to Mexico's drug cartels.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) allowed American Firearms dealers to sell over 2000 guns to Mexican gangs with no plans to interdict or recover the guns. ATF's own agents questioned these plans and one of the gun dealers sent an email to ATF that this was putting border agents lives at risk; 6 months before the murder of U.S. border control agent, Brian Terry. Also, Mexico's Attorney General reports more than 200 murders in Mexico have been linked to this operation.

This story is out now because of whistle-blowers resulting in a congressional inquiry. Nobody knows what law enforcement goals were here or what "Fast and Furious" was supposed to achieve.

In a Sept. 9th letter to White House national security adviser Tom Donilon, Representative Darrell Issa, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform chairman, and Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa revealed that the ATF special agent in charge of the operation was briefing the administration on the details as early as the summer of 2010.

In spite of this the Obama Justice Department tried to stop the acting head of the ATF, Kenneth Melson, from cooperating with congressional investigators. He ultimately testified before the Oversight Committee in July, arriving with his own legal representation. Then, in August, the Justice Department “reassigned” him to the Office of Legal Policy.

Then instead of releasing the audiotapes of the witnesses conversations directly to the congressional inquiry, the Obama Justice Dept. released the tapes to the Arizona U.S. Attorneys Office., raising the possibility of collusion between witnesses and obstruction of the investigation.

We all deserve to know how "Fast and Furious happened", and who will be held ultimately accountable. We know by experience that no scheme of this magnitude could have happened without, at least, the acquiescence of the President.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articl...ey_594154.html

It is indeed a scandal of major proportions that needs to be addressed. This is the sort of sleaze that should finally remove this empty suit from the White House.

You notice the libs have nuttin' to say about this. Wonder why?

Eric Holder bragged publicly about implementing Operation Gunrunner and the infamous "Fast and Furious". Now he has amnesia about it.

http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/...ation-in-2009/

"For those who might not know, Operation “Gunrunner” was the plan to sell guns to “straw purchasers” with suspected ties to the Mexican cartel. Apparently, ATF was then banking on those purchasers to walk the guns across the border into Mexico. Operation “Fast and Furious” was the plan to follow those guns until they were in cartel hands and then make apprehensions. (For the record, I concur with those who believe this was all an attempt to flood the border with weapons in order to create a degree of chaos sufficient to convince us of the supposed-need for more gun control in America.)"

Nobody knows what law enforcement goals were here or what "Fast and Furious" was supposed to achieve.

RichieLion, even a blind squirral, who occasionally finds a nut, could see what the goal was in this operation. More gun control, errrr, call that People Control. He who as the guns, control the people, he who as the gold, makes the rules.

Where are all the liberal posts on this thread?

Remember Iran contra?

Originally Posted by ladydoc

Remember Iran contra?

Oh brother, that is the best of the progressive left? Did Bush do it?

This is where Obama will most likely fail. He likes to try and get a consensus, get people in a room, etc.

This is a situation that calls for immediate action. It calls for Obama to make the people responsible "fall on their sword" - as in a memo that says "I will accept your resignation at your earliest convenience".

This, in my *opinion*, is one effect of having political inexperience in the White House does (as Obama wasn't in the Senate for that long). He's not decisive enough to deal with this situation while it's still exploding.

The longer it festers, the more people will be brought down by it.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

RichieLion, even a blind squirral, who occasionally finds a nut, could see what the goal was in this operation. More gun control, errrr, call that People Control. He who as the guns, control the people, he who as the gold, makes the rules.

Wow. I am the blind squirrel. I would never have connected those dots, BUT if you are correct, then each and everyone that has a finger print on this should not pass go and should go immediately to jail including Obama if he even so much as gave a thumbs up on this. I hold out some hope that you are wrong, but I can certainly see the possible connection. If this becomes fact, it would not be a bad decision, but rather a High Level Crime.

I await the opinion and research from those on there with bi-partisan abilities.

Demand "Fast and Furious" Investigation-Call for Holder to step down or be fired.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011...-holder-video/

Originally Posted by The Villager II

... BUT if you are correct, then each and everyone that has a finger print on this should not pass go and should go immediately to jail including Obama if he even so much as gave a thumbs up on this. I hold out some hope that you are wrong, but I can certainly see the possible connection. If this becomes fact, it would not be a bad decision, but rather a High Level Crime.I await the opinion and research from those on there with bi-partisan abilities.

Here is a link to a website http://www.jpfo.org

Go there and watch these three FREE movies, then download them and pass them around to your gun hating friends.

"No Guns For Negros" & "No Guns For Jews," then if you have time watch the one about the 2d Amendment. The first two will teach you all about "gun control," and why those types of laws are passed.

Then you will know why the 2d Amendment is so important. There is no need for gun control of law abiding citizens. We are not breaking the law. Gun control is actually people control. When all firearms are banned from ownership; only two classes of people will have guns. Criminals and those wanting to control the total population, the government.

In the past and up to the present, there has been no gun laws passed that effected criminal ownership of firearms. They are called criminals because they do not obey the law. Really simple, right.

Obama and Holder along with a few liberal senators, under the radar, wanted those firearms to get into the hands of the drug cartel so that this administration could point to the weak control of the purchase of firearms by citizens of this country (United States) was endangering the citizens of another country (Mexico). So to fix that problem, first all firearms would have to be registered. Then Obama and crew would make the ownership of firearms illegal in this country (United States) then they could not be shipped or transported illegally to another country (Mexico), except by the government and the government would have a data base of everyone who owned a firearm. Then if you don't turn them in within 30 days, they come to your house, search it and if they find one, you go to jail, if they can't and you can't tell them what happened to that firearm, you go to jail. Win/win for the government in any case. Then the Senate would ratify the UN treaty on the ownership of small arms, which is in direct conflict to our Constitution, further banning the ownership of firearms.

Once the 2d Amendment is gutted from the Constitution, the rest of the Constitution just becomes an old has been piece of paper that means nothing. There will be nothing that the government has to fear from the people.

I hope that I don't live long enough to see this happen and this is why it is important to get to the bottom of this mess.