I read an article in the Daily Sun about the effect of Alabama's tough new law on immigration.

So many of the legal and illegal immigrants have been scared out of Alabama that the farmers of fruits and veggies are going belly-up since there is no one to do the work. The article says the few Americans who have taken the jobs have been slower, want more money, do not do a full-day's work, and generally quit after a couple of days.

I also saw this happen in Manassas, Virginia where they passed some very strict local laws on illegal immigrants. Their economy is still suffering terribly from these laws and home prices dropped lower than any of the surrounding areas.

Just saying, you do not always get the results you wish for.

Proof that change is not always quick and easy. May have to wait a year or two for proof that it was worth it. Must be what the people of Alabama and Virginia wanted to do! I wish them every success!

Originally Posted by buggyone

I read an article in the Daily Sun about the effect of Alabama's tough new law on immigration.

So many of the legal and illegal immigrants have been scared out of Alabama that the farmers of fruits and veggies are going belly-up since there is no one to do the work. The article says the few Americans who have taken the jobs have been slower, want more money, do not do a full-day's work, and generally quit after a couple of days.

I also saw this happen in Manassas, Virginia where they passed some very strict local laws on illegal immigrants. Their economy is still suffering terribly from these laws and home prices dropped lower than any of the surrounding areas.

Just saying, you do not always get the results you wish for.

So, what is your point? It will take some time for everything to level out. Illegal immigration is not the answer.

Tell that to the farmers who have lost their crops because they cannot find anyone to pick the crops. It all trickles down to the consumer and in the end, the consumer pays more for the products. Jobs will be lost along the line of the trickle down, too.

Yes, the immediate evacuation of illegal immigrants might have been first on the plate of the citizens but it comes back to bite them in the butt. Be careful what you wish for - it always does not happen like you want.

In the meantime, more jobs are lost because of not thinking of consequences. Do not blame this on the Democrats.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Tell that to the farmers who have lost their crops because they cannot find anyone to pick the crops. It all trickles down to the consumer and in the end, the consumer pays more for the products. Jobs will be lost along the line of the trickle down, too.

Yes, the immediate evacuation of illegal immigrants might have been first on the plate of the citizens but it comes back to bite them in the butt. Be careful what you wish for - it always does not happen like you want.

In the meantime, more jobs are lost because of not thinking of consequences. Do not blame this on the Democrats.

The farmers lost their crops because they do not want to pay a decent wage for work done. I am more then willing to pay more for my produce..it is WAY cheaper then the other costs of illegal immigration....land destruction (AZ ranches being decimated by the crossers), skyrocketing ER costs and even closing ERS, overall medical costs, education costs, incarceration costs, etc.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

The farmers lost their crops because they do not want to pay a decent wage for work done. I am more then willing to pay more for my produce..it is WAY cheaper then the other costs of illegal immigration....land destruction (AZ ranches being decimated by the crossers), skyrocketing ER costs and even closing ERS, overall medical costs, education costs, incarceration costs, etc.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

The farmers lost their crops because they do not want to pay a decent wage for work done. I am more then willing to pay more for my produce..it is WAY cheaper then the other costs of illegal immigration....land destruction (AZ ranches being decimated by the crossers), skyrocketing ER costs and even closing ERS, overall medical costs, education costs, incarceration costs, etc.

Amen, and add to that crime.

Once again, tell that to the farmers who have gone bankrupt and the loss of jobs due to the trickle-down effect of ill-conceived laws.

We do not know if the farmers were willing to pay a living wage or not. I am not going to make assumptions about that.

I am also not going to argue about this. I was only posting an interesting article from the Daily Sun.

So buggyone, what you are saying, is that you support slavery. Shame on you.

Originally Posted by buggyone

I read an article in the Daily Sun about the effect of Alabama's tough new law on immigration.

So many of the legal and illegal immigrants have been scared out of Alabama that the farmers of fruits and veggies are going belly-up since there is no one to do the work. The article says the few Americans who have taken the jobs have been slower, want more money, do not do a full-day's work, and generally quit after a couple of days.

I also saw this happen in Manassas, Virginia where they passed some very strict local laws on illegal immigrants. Their economy is still suffering terribly from these laws and home prices dropped lower than any of the surrounding areas.

Just saying, you do not always get the results you wish for.

I don't think their economy is suffering from immigration laws, the economy is suffering because of B. Hussein Obama and the idiots in the Senate.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I don't think their economy is suffering from immigration laws, the economy is suffering because of B. Hussein Obama and the idiots in the Senate.

That's a given! I guess that is why we skipped right over that fact!

I suspect that another consequence of this - if indeed a lot of farmers go bankrupt - will be the expansion of "Big Agro" buying up defunct or near-defunct farms. They did this in the midwest when government policy contributed to bankruptcies (had to do with the way the FHA did business and what their workers had incentives for - in hindsight, it looked like the toxic mortgage debacle of recent memory)