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Old 01-01-2012, 11:10 AM
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Don't know which one it might be but I can't get these dishes clean!
I've read some old threads about hard water rememdies but I'm still confused about water treatment options. A lot of the threads vear off into debates over TV water being OK or not.
I want a water filter (don't think chlorine was meant to drink) and a remedy for the hard water. Suggestiion?
Thank you, thank you.
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I don't know if it's the same experience you are having, but I had a sort of fine film on everything. I searched the web and it was recommended to put vinegar thru an empty load. I think I used a quart. Did that and it solved my problem. That was about 6 months ago. I'm ready to do another "unload". Hope that helps!
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I would bet it's hard water. I've been exploring putting a whole house softner in but I agree also on the debate issues. Just the facts would help.
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If you're using Cascade, throw it away and use Finish Gelpacs with a sprinkle of Lemi Shine. It will remedy your problem for about $6.00.
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When we first moved to TV we had the same problem with the dishwasher. Tried at least three different cleaning agents and nothing changed. Spots all over glasses and silverware. Even called GE who told us to use hotter water. That did not help either.
Once we installed a whole house water filter system the problem disappeared.
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If you're using Cascade, throw it away and use Finish Gelpacs with a sprinkle of Lemi Shine. It will remedy your problem for about $6.00.
I used Finish Gelpacs when we came here and tried using that with LemiShine and it did not help. Have tried everything and conclude it is the hard water. The water glasses look like they were rinsed in skim milk and water, no matter what we try. Water softener is our next purchase.
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When we first moved to TV we had the same problem with the dishwasher. Tried at least three different cleaning agents and nothing changed. Spots all over glasses and silverware. Even called GE who told us to use hotter water. That did not help either.
Once we installed a whole house water filter system the problem disappeared.
What system did you get, and I know it's rude, but what was the cost... Installed.
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It's the water.

Have you also noticed the white spots on sink and shower fixtures?
We'll be installing some sort of filter this year, still researching.

As to the water in TV there is no debate as far as I'm concerned, it's
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The dish washing detergent manufacturers remove phosphates from their products in 2010. It was done in 17 states "voluntarily", but was due to pressure from the feds. Since the manufacturers can't easily formulate their products differently in different states, they pretty much removed the phosphates from their products totally. Here is part of an NPR article from December 2010:

"Is your dishwasher not working the way it used to? Earlier this year, with little fanfare, detergent makers reworked their formulas. This was supposed to be good for waterways. But it turned a simple chore into a frustrating mystery for many people across the country. A couple of months ago, Sandra Young from Vernon, Fla., started to notice that something was seriously amiss with her dishes. "The pots and pans were gray, the aluminum was starting to turn black, the glasses had fingerprints and lip prints still on them, and they were starting to get this powdery look to them," Vernon says. "I'm like, oh, my goodness, my dishwasher must be dying; I better get a new dishwasher." Young's not alone. Many people across the country are tearing out their hair over stained flatware, filmy glasses and ruined dishes."

It's probably not the water; rather it's your government at work. You can decide for yourself if you like it or not. I know what Ron Paul would say . . . .
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Don't know which one it might be but I can't get these dishes clean!
I've read some old threads about hard water rememdies but I'm still confused about water treatment options. A lot of the threads vear off into debates over TV water being OK or not.
I want a water filter (don't think chlorine was meant to drink) and a remedy for the hard water. Suggestiion?
Thank you, thank you.
Billy, we had the same problem' and now machine works great. Check out this past thread
GE dishwasher problems
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I throw some white vinegar (about a cup full) into the bottom of dishwasher just prior to turning it on. The vinegar safely removes spots from glasses and gets all dishes cleaner.
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I feel it's the Water, No I know it's the water. Our home will have some type of Charcoal filter to clean up the chlorine and a softner to reduce the hard water and smell

And try this secret. Orange Tang The breakfast drink! Cleans up the diswasher and even removes Spaghetti Red Sauce.

Just got back from a demonstration at a Maytag store. For our new HE top load washer

They take city tap chlorine water and mix it with HE laundry detergent. Guess what you get! Useless soap.

Kills all the enzymes to clean your Clothes. Village Aguifer City Water yuck!
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We had a problem like that and tried all sorts of things. Then I was working under the kitchen sink one day and noticed they had plumbed the dishwasher to the cold water line!! I had them come out and re-do the plumbing (still under warranty) and the problem went away. Worth checking under the sink.
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We add lemon juice to each load & it cleared up the problem.
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Ours works fine. No water softener here. Try using HALF of the usual dishwashing soap.
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