More than 24 hours and still no one here has screamed bloody murder or called for his head.

I, for one, applaud the President's action to appoint Richard Cordray to head the congressionally approved Consumer Fraud Protection Bureau. Cordray is well qualified, as conceded by many Republicans and Democrats, but his appointment was blocked by Republicans who wanted to restructure the agency mission and powers.

The President is risking lawsuits and rather severe hand slapping by the courts. Ultimately a court reversal could set an important precedent further limiting the power of Presidential appointments. Reversal, or even a reasonable indication it might occur, would also give opponents a major argument for unseating the incumbent in November.

So it took some courage and resolve to 'damn the torpedoes' and make the appointment. These are the qualities I look for in a President.

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

More than 24 hours and still no one here has screamed bloody murder or called for his head.

I, for one, applaud the President's action to appoint Richard Cordray to head the congressionally approved Consumer Fraud Protection Bureau. Cordray is well qualified, as conceded by many Republicans and Democrats, but his appointment was blocked by Republicans who wanted to restructure the agency mission and powers.

The President is risking lawsuits and rather severe hand slapping by the courts. Ultimately a court reversal could set an important precedent further limiting the power of Presidential appointments. Reversal, or even a reasonable indication it might occur, would also give opponents a major argument for unseating the incumbent in November.

So it took some courage and resolve to 'damn the torpedoes' and make the appointment. These are the qualities I look for in a President.

Here Here !!!!!!!!!!!! Can't refudiate that .......

Democrats are going to regret this. They won't be in power for long. The tables will turn.

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is...ts-will-regret

no big deal lots of Presidents have done this. What is a big deal is Obama showing some leadership for a change. Good for him. If congress(both sides)can't agree on the simplest of nominations then it is up to the Pres. whoever he is to step up. Maybe just maybe if he keeps doing this kind of thing both sides might be more persuaded to compromise. I doubt it but we'll see.

Just a reminder...

"The two Democrats that President Barack Obama appointed to the National Labor Relations Board during what he considered a congressional “recess” are not on the White House’s official list of Obama’s appointments and nominations for various positions.

Obama referred his two Democratic nominees, Sharon Block and Richard Griffin, to the Senate on Dec. 15. The Senate adjourned for the year – but did not go into an official recess — on the following day."

Just saying...it is politics....before you canonize the President...

"WhiteHouse.gov tracks the status of all of Obama’s appointments and nominations. Block and Griffin do not appear on that list — a sign that the administration rushed the recess appointments through too quickly for the Senate to even consider them"

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/06/de...-nominee-list/

Originally Posted by waynet

no big deal lots of Presidents have done this. What is a big deal is Obama showing some leadership for a change. Good for him. If congress(both sides)can't agree on the simplest of nominations then it is up to the Pres. whoever he is to step up. Maybe just maybe if he keeps doing this kind of thing both sides might be more persuaded to compromise. I doubt it but we'll see.

No President has ever done this in the manner that Obama has. It may in fact be unconstitutional. Congress was in "pro forma" session as recognized by Congress and the Executive Office until this power grab.

"Damn the Constitution, full speed ahead"

Originally Posted by RichieLion

No President has ever done this in the manner that Obama has. It may in fact be unconstitutional. Congress was in "pro forma" session as recognized by Congress and the Executive Office until this power grab.

"Damn the Constitution, full speed ahead"

Nope, you are condemning an action, (by a President you despise) prematurely.
The sham of the pro forma session has never been constitutionally tested. Here's a parallel for you - a Republican issuing an Emancipation Proclamation. Find that distastefully unconstitutional too?

My description of strong, reasonable Presidential action stands.

But hey, as you put it, you can always "knock yourself out" contributing funds or otherwise supporting an effort to sue and try to get the action overturned if you want.

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

Nope, you are condemning an action, (by a President you despise) prematurely.
The sham of the pro forma session has never been constitutionally tested. Here's a parallel for you - a Republican issuing an Emancipation Proclamation. Find that distastefully unconstitutional too?

My description of strong, reasonable Presidential action stands.

But hey, as you put it, you can always "knock yourself out" contributing funds or otherwise supporting an effort to sue and try to get the action overturned if you want.

The Emancipation Proclamation was an Executive Order. What does one have to do with the other?

it's a presidential act, by any name, subject to judicial review.

ijusluvit might call it presidential...i just call it arrogant.

Again the founding Fathers created recess appointments knowing that congress could not remain in sessions year round, ergo allowing temporary appointments. However far too many presidents have used this priviledge selfishly to push their personal agenda.

In Obama's case Congress was still in session and all three appointments were to gain tighter government control .

By the way the last adjective I would ever associate with Obama is "courage"

Originally Posted by rubicon

Again the founding Fathers created recess appointments knowing that congress could not remain in sessions year round, ergo allowing temporary appointments. However far too many presidents have used this priviledge selfishly to push their personal agenda.

In Obama's case Congress was still in session and all three appointments were to gain tighter government control .

By the way the last adjective I would ever associate with Obama is "courage"

AND they were never published thus congress could NOT even consider them prior to.

Thus there could not be a delay by the other party despite what folks are saying.....spin it, spin it

Originally Posted by Bucco

AND they were never published thus congress could NOT even consider them prior to.

Thus there could not be a delay by the other party despite what folks are saying.....spin it, spin it

BUCCO: to detail it more these spinmeisters can spin false bad news and false good news . Either way we are all being fed misinformation and I for one am tired of it and don't appreciate the game playing as it is just plain destructive

What does the Emancipation Proclamation have to do with this? Do you know what the Emancipation Proclamation did?

Originally Posted by buggyone

What does the Emancipation Proclamation have to do with this? Do you know what the Emancipation Proclamation did?

Buggyone, yes, at 18 it free's parents from their kids