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Outlet on our lanai went out. Had a lamp pluged in. The GFCI in the garage popped. I am assuming the garage GFCI is wired into the lanai outlet. Unpluged the lamp so nothing is pluged into any unworking outlets, the garage GFCI will not reset so now I am assuming that the garage GFCI is shot and needs to be replaced, is this a good assumption?
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It could be a correct assumption.

But....FWIW, here's something that might help you narrow things down:

Can't Reset a GFCI Outlet?

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Just had the same thing happen in our master bath. When our own inspector said they was a problem with reset the villages said it was fine. Well it is not working at all now and we have to get it fixed
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It could be a correct assumption.

But....FWIW, here's something that might help you narrow things down:

Can't Reset a GFCI Outlet?

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...To the casual observer, your assumption is logical.....HOWEVER.....
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When an electrician installed our outside outlet for us last year, he asked if we planned to use anything with an electric motor, i.e. an electric lawn mower? He said that a homeowner's GFCI kept burning out requiring several replacements until he finally asked what the homeowner was using that outlet for (an electric lawn mower). The electrician claimed that he then upgraded the GFCI and it never burned out subsequently. So from this conversation there must be some difference in the quality and sensitivity of a more expensive and robust GFCI outlet.
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When you attempt to reset the breaker...make sure you turn it to the off position before going to the on position. If it pops back to the tripped position (center) there is something still plugged in that is causing a problem or the breaker is most likely bad.
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When you attempt to reset the breaker.......
I might be wrong......but I think the O.P. is dealing with a GFCI receptacle that's kicking out rather than a GFCI breaker.

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Yes it is an outlet. The breaker for that circut has not tripped.
Today I checked the four other outlets on the circut, all dead. Talked to a retired electricain and he suspects the outlet is bad. That circut was being used by a larger electric motor the day it went out, we had our concrete areas cleaned and they used a device simalar to a floor scrubber with high pressure water. Worked great by the way, concrete looks almost new. I think I will install a new GFCI outlet tomorrow.
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You may want to replace the outlet on the lanai first. It may be a 15A rated outlet, that is burnt from the heavy load of the equipment. If that does not fix it, then replace the GFI in the garage. You need to make sure you buy a feed thru type. (there are "line" and "load" screws) If it is in the garage it should be rated for 20A. Need to shut breaker off at panel box to replace.
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It could be a correct assumption.

But....FWIW, here's something that might help you narrow things down:

Can't Reset a GFCI Outlet?

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No problem, Dan - you're welcome!

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Most of the wire in the homes is 14-2 and it should be 12-2. 14-2 is cheaper that's why all those 15a GFI's are used.
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Replaced the garage GFCI and all is well. Line and load is clearly marked as was the breaker box so no problem. The old GFCI in the garage was a 20 amp and that is what I replaced it with.
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Thanks for the update on the fix, Opus - glad to hear it was a simple one!

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