Nice try on the whole war on woman lie perpetrated by the left. In the week since, Obama's poll numbers tank even more.

The American people are on to the liberal lie. Bye bye Obama.

Originally Posted by dklassen

Nice try on the whole war on woman lie perpetrated by the left. In the week since, Obama's poll numbers tank even more.

The American people are on to the liberal lie. Bye bye Obama.

Hope you are right..but never take things like politics for granted.

There does seem to be a desperation of some kind......little early to play this game that they played with the gal, which was such an obvious little trick, but they pulled it out of the hat already. Seems to be a sign of a bit of panic on their part, but still not sure what it would gain during the primary.

Poll number are strange..he is beginning to backslide and not sure why unless it is just a combination of NOTHING on foreign relations front, ie...we are still in limbo with Syria, Iran and everyone...but in a strange way that might be good for him.

Election is quite a long time from now in political time...so anything can happen, but this last effort with women was much too obvious.

When you cut through all the liberal smoke and mirrors, the American people simply don't want 4 more years of Obama. Some do of course but not the ones who really care about Americas future.

The South, Apppalachia, and rural areas receive the most government help but these are the same regions that are the most rabid hotbeds of anti-tax, anti-government ideas. One recent survey found that 44% of people on Social Security and 43% of people on unemployment insist they they have never used a government program.

The "Get the Federal Government out of my affairs" people should think long and hard, also, on their beliefs. I am sure that the states of Indiana, Illinois, and Missouri will be looking for FEMA to send in the trailers and loads of money.

As for Darryl's statement of "Some do (want Obama in office for another term) of course but not the ones who really care about Americas future." Yes, some do - and that will be around 55% of voters.

you got a lot of nerve telling me or anyone else I do not care about America just because some of my beliefs are different than yours. Thank goodness your narrowmindedness is not a trait of most Americans.

Originally Posted by waynet

you got a lot of nerve telling me or anyone else I do not care about America just because some of my beliefs are different than yours. Thank goodness your narrowmindedness is not a trait of most Americans.

I think DK is just lamenting the supporters of a President who so obviously has failed in bringing this country back, and in fact has made things so much worse there may be no coming back.

You really feel a need to transform his words into a personal message to you?

That's pretty vain.

Originally Posted by buggyone

The South, Apppalachia, and rural areas receive the most government help but these are the same regions that are the most rabid hotbeds of anti-tax, anti-government ideas. One recent survey found that 44% of people on Social Security and 43% of people on unemployment insist they they have never used a government program.

The "Get the Federal Government out of my affairs" people should think long and hard, also, on their beliefs. I am sure that the states of Indiana, Illinois, and Missouri will be looking for FEMA to send in the trailers and loads of money. [/U]

It is appalling that benefits that Americans have paid for, possibly throughout their adult working lives, such as Social Security and Unemployment Insurance, are equated with government programs such as those through FEMA and the like. Social Security and Unemployment Insurance are not welfare, nor are they charity. People worked—often long and hard—to earn these benefits, and to put them down in their times of need for them, which we hear all too often, is outrageous and insensitive!

dk: You're absolutely right - I would very much like an improvement as opposed to 4 more years of Obama.

However, Santorum would be 4 years of a theocracy - and I'll take Obama over that.

Romney would ramp up the wars, cut taxes, make Obama's deficits look like pocket change, but keep the status quo for the very wealthy. I'll take Obama over that.

It's not exactly something that makes me feel good when Obama is the best of a bad set of choices.

Originally Posted by twinklesweep

It is appalling that benefits that Americans have paid for, possibly throughout their adult working lives, such as Social Security and Unemployment Insurance, are equated with government programs such as those through FEMA and the like. Social Security and Unemployment Insurance are not welfare, nor are they charity. People worked—often long and hard—to earn these benefits, and to put them down in their times of need for them, which we hear all too often, is outrageous and insensitive!

Chances are that you have or will have drawn out much more money in benefits than what you paid into Social Security. I was talking with a friend a few nights ago and he said his mother (age 94) has been getting Social Security since 1975 (34 years) at the rate of $1500 per month. That comes out to $666,000. Do you think that she contributed that much money into the system? It is a government benefit program. Would she have been happy at only being able to draw out what she and her employer had contributed? That would have run out many, many years ago.

I seriously doubt she was getting $1500/mo in 1975. You'd have to do the math on what the COLA increases were and retroactively "unapply" them from now to 37 years ago.

No matter what the COLA's were along the way, she has taken out many times what she and her employer contributed.

It is not always necessary to try and get the last word in on a conversation - especially when posting from a computer during work time.

Gosh reading this thread is like watching that TV series "Fringe". I mean there seems to be a parallel universe. Because the Obama I am watching and hearing about has had a continuation of poorly drafted and failed policy from the inception of his presidency. Perhaps the Obama in that parallel universe is the one that posters are praising? Or perhaps our Obama is just one of those shape shifters? You know like I lead ..... but from behind. And I won't intrefere with your constitutional rights...unless of course you are a citizen of the USA. Or, how about those "fat cats" on Wall Street...you mean the Goldman Sachs, et al that are pouring millions into your campaign coffers
Yea that's it Obama is a shape shifter pretty slick huh.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Chances are that you have or will have drawn out much more money in benefits than what you paid into Social Security. I was talking with a friend a few nights ago and he said his mother (age 94) has been getting Social Security since 1975 (34 years) at the rate of $1500 per month. That comes out to $666,000. Do you think that she contributed that much money into the system? It is a government benefit program. Would she have been happy at only being able to draw out what she and her employer had contributed? That would have run out many, many years ago.

Counter that with those that died that never drew a penny for all the tears they worked. Some win , some lose.

Originally Posted by rubicon

Gosh reading this thread is like watching that TV series "Fringe". I mean there seems to be a parallel universe. Because the Obama I am watching and hearing about has had a continuation of poorly drafted and failed policy from the inception of his presidency. Perhaps the Obama in that parallel universe is the one that posters are praising? Or perhaps our Obama is just one of those shape shifters? You know like I lead ..... but from behind. And I won't intrefere with your constitutional rights...unless of course you are a citizen of the USA. Or, how about those "fat cats" on Wall Street...you mean the Goldman Sachs, et al that are pouring millions into your campaign coffers
Yea that's it Obama is a shape shifter pretty slick huh.

So the economy is not a lot better now than in late 2007? The world is not on the brink of economic collapse anymore (which is a good thing), the DOW is at 13,000 instead of 6,000, the auto industry is healthy again, most banks are doing quite well, we are NOT in Iraq, bin Laden is dead as well as many other Al Queada leaders - and you see a failed policy from the day of inception of Obama's leadership? To me, those things all sound pretty positive. How are they not? Shall we go back to September, 2007 and you will be happy then?

Originally Posted by djplong

dk: You're absolutely right - I would very much like an improvement as opposed to 4 more years of Obama.

However, Santorum would be 4 years of a theocracy - and I'll take Obama over that.

Romney would ramp up the wars, cut taxes, make Obama's deficits look like pocket change, but keep the status quo for the very wealthy. I'll take Obama over that.

It's not exactly something that makes me feel good when Obama is the best of a bad set of choices.

I've written and deleted about 6 posts on this now. The above seems so crazy to me and devoid of real understanding and insight on the actors involved that I don't know how to respond without it being personal.

I've often disagreed with you, but this is the first time you floored me.