If he is so confident they will not reject his bill then why the warning??

Combative Obama warns Supreme Court on health law - Yahoo! News Canada

Just like he rammed the bill through congress, he is now working the supreme court to be sure his legacy (??) stays in tact.

What a surprise from the ultimate deal making, POTUS.

Don't be surprised if in fact at some point we will hear from the justices that they did not have enough time to fully read and understand what the bill actually says and does; therefore they have no choice but to resort to previous precedent and promote the bill without knowing what is in it.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

If he is so confident they will not reject his bill then why the warning??

Combative Obama warns Supreme Court on health law - Yahoo! News Canada

Just like he rammed the bill through congress, he is now working the supreme court to be sure his legacy (??) stays in tact.

What a surprise from the ultimate deal making, POTUS.

Don't be surprised if in fact at some point we will hear from the justices that they did not have enough time to fully read and understand what the bill actually says and does; therefore they have no choice but to resort to previous precedent and promote the bill without knowing what is in it.

btk

And what happened to that Republican mantra about "activist judges"?

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

And what happened to that Republican mantra about "activist judges"?

It won't be too long before we find out how the Court decides. But if the polls don't change a whole lot in Mitt Romney's favor--forget about Santorum or Gingrich, they're so far behind Obama it's not reasonable that they could ever catch up--then Obama will very likely appoint at least one more Supreme Court justice, if not two or three. Then it will be interesting to hear the arguments that the nominees may be "activist judges".

The sad thing about that possible outcome is that by contributing to a broken government for several years, then conducting maybe the most self-destructive presidential primary in memory, the GOP did it to themselves.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

And what happened to that Republican mantra about "activist judges"?

Tell me the last time a sitting President of the United States called out the Supreme Court and even alluded to their not being elected.

Arrogant is one word that comes to mind. I am sure that both sides have talked about activists judges, but a sitting President is unusual if it ever happened especially using the words he used.

All could have been avoided had he done what he said he would do...ie, address health care costs, tort reform and done it, instead of in back rooms while making deals, in public.

This President just plain feels better than almost anyone !

FDR did not have a good relationship with the court.

Potus must have been listening to the Reverend Wright in one ear and Ayers in the other ear when his Constitutonal Law professor was lecturing on Checks and Balances.

Originally Posted by waynet

FDR did not have a good relationship with the court.

Oh I realize that and glad you brought it up just to keep the record straight, BUT my question was about a sitting President AT THIS STAGE, ie. deliberations just begun, to say what he said, especially the veiled threat about not being elected !!

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

It won't be too long before we find out how the Court decides. But if the polls don't change a whole lot in Mitt Romney's favor--forget about Santorum or Gingrich, they're so far behind Obama it's not reasonable that they could ever catch up--then Obama will very likely appoint at least one more Supreme Court justice, if not two or three. Then it will be interesting to hear the arguments that the nominees may be "activist judges".

The sad thing about that possible outcome is that by contributing to a broken government for several years, then conducting maybe the most self-destructive presidential primary in memory, the GOP did it to themselves.

IMO, if ever there was a statement that should rally the conservative base it is the one highlighted above.

I believe Obama has reached one of two conclusions. He is a one term POTUS and does not care/fear any retribution for anything he says or does.
Or he has concluded he is unbeatable and could care/fear even less.

Telling the Russians to openly wait until after the election to use his "flexibility" (= no worry about the electorate any more and do what ever). Then when we the people gasp, he makes a joke of it. We the people in their fickle norm roll over and do nothing more....again.

Now stepping out of line, again, to threaten the Supreme Court justices and make his will known....or else?

His actions identify him as arrogant and unconcerned about anything other than his agenda. He continues to take liberties with the office of POTUS and the Constitution which he swore to uphold as a condition of office....unlike any POTUS before him.

His WH staff and support team and of course the ever present media all are geared to insulate him from wrong doing or criticism. Hence he becomes more arrogant with each passing test of the system he becomes more bold in his actions.

The man raises and or confirms doubts about his role and agenda each and every passing day.

We the people that fell for his charm the first time around should take heed of his performance before they head to the ballot box.

For those who happen to be not alarmed at his actions and performance or lack of performance, to be polite about it we can only conclude they have been charmed.

btk

The court will overturn obamacare and Obama in Nov will loose in a landslide.

Watch and see.

Originally Posted by dklassen

The court will overturn obamacare and Obama in Nov will loose in a landslide.

Watch and see.

Probably only if Mitt Romney gets the Presidential bid and he puts in someone like a Bush or someone very closely connected to the Bushes as VP. That could be Ms. Rice or Colin Powell.

I cannot see any of the people mentioned above though actually back into politics at that level.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

And what happened to that Republican mantra about "activist judges"?

"Activist judges" are judges that "make law". Overturning a law that was written in violation of Constitutional powers does not rise to the level of activism.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

"Activist judges" are judges that "make law". Overturning a law that was written in violation of Constitutional powers does not rise to the level of activism.

Only when the Republicans want that definition of "activist judges" to apply though. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/us...pagewanted=all

Not when gay rights, abortion, or other issues come before the Supreme Court that is. Then, Republicans have a different definition of the US Supreme Court Justices stepping in.

Originally Posted by dklassen

The court will overturn obamacare and Obama in Nov will loose in a landslide.

Watch and see.

Bookmarked!

Xavier

Originally Posted by RichieLion

"Activist judges" are judges that "make law". Overturning a law that was written in violation of Constitutional powers does not rise to the level of activism.

how could obama have passed constitutional law much less taught it if he does not recognize that the supremes are just doing thier job - ruling on the constitutionality of obamacare? sheesh!