The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of
Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free
meals and food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
Animals."
Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals
will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of
themselves.

What's your point?

Obvious point well-taken.

Not funny. On Medicare or pension - you are on a handout buddy

Originally Posted by chicago92

Not funny. On Medicare or pension - you are on a handout buddy

What you said is true, but not completely. The situation of "handouts" is undoubtedly not funny. As for Medicare and pensions, they are handouts, but most definitely not in the case of where recipients either contributed toward or worked for what they receive! For them it's called "earned benefits," not "handouts"!

Originally Posted by chicago92

Not funny. On Medicare or pension - you are on a handout buddy

Maybe, but mostly not. I paid 51 years into Social Security and from the very beginning into Medicare. Yes they will probably be a good deal, but I didn't have a choice. It was a tax forced on me by our government. So it is not a handout now that they are giving me back my money. And if I live another 12.8 years I will finally break even. Then I will collect something if I live past 79 years old.

As for food stamps. If someone really needs help I completely support them getting the help. However I can go to any grocery store in our area and find someone selling food stamp cards for 60 cents on the dollar to buy things not paid for by food stamps. Usually beer, cigarettes or drugs. The next time your in line and someone pays with food stamps, follow them to the parking lot and see what car they drive. It's an eye opener. IMHO it is one of the most abused welfare "handouts" we have.

So I agree with original poster, point well made.

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Maybe, but mostly not. I paid 51 years into Social Security and from the very beginning into Medicare. Yes they will probably be a good deal, but I didn't have a choice. It was a tax forced on me by our government. So it is not a handout now that they are giving me back my money. And if I live another 12.8 years I will finally break even. Then I will collect something if I live past 79 years old.

As for food stamps. If someone really needs help I completely support them getting the help. However I can go to any grocery store in our area and find someone selling food stamp cards for 60 cents on the dollar to buy things not paid for by food stamps. Usually beer, cigarettes or drugs. The next time your in line and someone pays with food stamps, follow them to the parking lot and see what car they drive. It's an eye opener. IMHO it is one of the most abused welfare "handouts" we have.

So I agree with original poster, point well made.

This thread started in the joke thread, but it isn't a joke. I have to agree with l2rdhd.

This probably should be in political but to me it is a general issue. I bet the people who could write books are the check out clerks at the grocery.

Like 12ridehd and so many millions more we paid into both programs for better than 50 years without any say in the matter.

This could have been a good thing because many people in both programs lacked the effort or lack the opportunity to do any savings or carry medical coverage at all. Corporations use to do a adequate attempt at providing benefits but somewhere along the line they stopped and reversed course. This left quite a few workers in dire straights.

Many like my wife and me never place trust in relying on others and so banked every penny we could deferring compensation for retirement years.

I said both these programs coud have been a good thing however our greedy representatives misrepresented themseves so as to have the opportunity to avail themselves to our funds because they felt "entitled" to do so . Then they played the political game and called these programs "entitlements" giving them the option to pull them from us. Well I mad as ----and I am not going to take it.

Food stamps on the other hand are an entitlement but for some a need. However there are so many abuses and undeserving beneficaries in the program because the government lacks the will to clean up their mess .

You have to know the program is failing many when many generation after generations continue on this program. It is morally repugnant to keep these folks in such bondage making them "in effect" addicted to this program.
I am not talking about the individual that needs a hand up to get back on their feet. I am talking about those that find this is the righteous way of life. so muc so that they feel good about buying $42 ice cream cakes as was explained in an article on the subject in WSJ. Heck I can't afford nor would pay that amount for an everyday cake.

Finally I wish the liberals would stop using the same old argument that conservatives argue against entitlements but collect their social security checks every month. It is disingenious of liberals and they know it. Better they use their intellect and energy to push elected officials into getting some of these food stamp beneficiaries out of servitude

Remember we have to take care and feed the children. Some may abuse the system but you do not deny anyone because of them. Follow someone from a store to a nice car in the parking lot,people have been using that line for 50 years. Whats your point?...

[QUOTE=paulandjean;511927]Remember we have to take care and feed the children. QUOTE]

I disagree!! WE should not have to take care of someone elses children. They need to take care of them. It's time WE stopped paying people for having more children.

Do those among you that see SS as a "handout" send your checks back every month?

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Remember we have to take care and feed the children. Some may abuse the system but you do not deny anyone because of them. Follow someone from a store to a nice car in the parking lot,people have been using that line for 50 years. Whats your point?...

The point is pretty simple!. The system is abused and it's obvious! Some politicans and their supporters look the other was so the system can be played. Welfare could be a wonderful thing... if it weren't used and abused for purposes other than what it's intended for!

In a perfect world we should not have to take care and feed someones else children.,However we do not live in a perfect world,so you do the right thing.Not to sure of this taxpayers money to have children theory. Just think of it as a church collection baskets for the needy.

Just remember what. Rodney king said " help i can't swim!!


Or Elvis sang the best song the way our country should be run....."only the strong survive!!" now we got a bunch of wimps!
When Hillary is President this will be a scarey place

[quote=getdul981;511929]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Remember we have to take care and feed the children. QUOTE]

I disagree!! WE should not have to take care of someone elses children. They need to take care of them. It's time WE stopped paying people for having more children.

What? Let them starve? There but by the grace of God go you?