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Old 07-18-2012, 04:56 PM
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Did you know Obama by passed Congress with 926 executive orders while Bush only did 29?? and they STILL talk about Bush !! lol
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:02 PM
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Did you know Obama by passed Congress with 926 executive orders while Bush only did 29?? and they STILL talk about Bush !! lol
Might be alarming ----- if true! Obama 131 Bush 291

1,461 Days of The Obama Administration: Current List of President Obama's Executive Orders

George W. Bush Executive Orders Disposition Tables

Read VKs "lowest common demoninator" post
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:06 PM
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Distortion of the truth must be a trademark of the Tea Party.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:19 PM
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Did you know Obama by passed Congress with 926 executive orders while Bush only did 29?? and they STILL talk about Bush !! lol
Please post a link to support your allegation.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:32 PM
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The real numbers are Junior Bush signed 291 Executive Orders and President Obama has signed 131.

The Tea Party just does not tell the truth.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:47 PM
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pure rubbish
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I do not know what the truth here is but it would seem that following 9/11 Bush had some real scrambling to do....just saying
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:50 PM
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I do not know what the truth here is but it would seem that following 9/11 Bush had some real scrambling to do....just saying
I gave you links to the truth! This is one of the huge problems I have, particularly with the right wing. They (you) seem to be anxious to believe and pass along vastly unfounded and untruthful 'facts" about the President, and are not willing to retract even in the face of substantiated facts. Cripes it makes me crazy that people can't stay on track with the truth in their quest to prove their points. Everyone has some truth on their side in either support or opposition of most arguments, why resort to distortion and lies?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:08 PM
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The real numbers are Junior Bush signed 291 Executive Orders and President Obama has signed 131.

The Tea Party just does not tell the truth.
did it take gw all 8 yrs to sign that many exec orders - avg 36.3/yr? if so, obama is working at a rate of 46.6/yr based on 3 yrs or 37.4 for 3.5 yrs.
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did it take gw all 8 yrs to sign that many exec orders - avg 36.3/yr? if so, obama is working at a rate of 46.6/yr based on 3 yrs or 37.4 for 3.5 yrs.
Yes, but how many per hour?
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:26 PM
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I gave you links to the truth! This is one of the huge problems I have, particularly with the right wing. They (you) seem to be anxious to believe and pass along vastly unfounded and untruthful 'facts" about the President, and are not willing to retract even in the face of substantiated facts. Cripes it makes me crazy that people can't stay on track with the truth in their quest to prove their points. Everyone has some truth on their side in either support or opposition of most arguments, why resort to distortion and lies?
Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index

Hulababy was incorrect; eweissenbach and buggyone cited correct numbers. However, was Hulababy "distorting the truth" or was he speaking for the Tea Party and "just not telling the truth"? I'll surmise (correct me if I'm wrong Hulababy...sorry) that Hulababy received the numbers he quoted via an email from a like-minded individual. Do you really think he would quote incorrect numbers when numbers are so easy to verify? We've probably all done similar things by forwarding emails with "facts" that support our political opinions WITHOUT checking the correctness of the facts.

But, why get so wrapped around the axle for a discussion about the number of EOs issued by a President? It seems as if there is an implied premise here that EOs are evidence of Presidents abusing executive orders by using them to make laws without Congressional approval or of moving existing laws away from their original mandates. If so, there needs to be some qualitative analysis to accompany the raw numbers presented and corrected here. Without a deeper understanding, this 'give-and-take' is about nothing of significance.

EOs can simply be revoked by the next (or later) President, so they live or die by the whim of the President's successors. With some noteable exceptions, EOs don't leave an enduring legacy; neither do the NUMBER of EOs issued by a President indicate anything important.
 


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