Just wondering how many of you feel that the Political Board should be rough n tumble, bare knuckle politics? Do you think that Admin/Moderators should let us have at it or censor us?

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Just wondering how many of you feel that the Political Board should be rough n tumble, bare knuckle politics? Do you think that Admin/Moderators should let us have at it or censor us?

They do a good job of getting rid of messages that are just personal attacks. I have very little use for the kind of argument that attacks the poster rather than the post.

Along the same lines, it is very poor logic and etiquette to just make it about the person expressing the opinion. Seems very juvenile too to make the messenger pay for his/her opinions.

I went through 5 years of personal attacks because of the right of free speech on Findlaw's many message boards from 2000-2005. I suppose many people found all the attacks on me very funny; but they did very little for my efforts in making an argument based on good evidence. Lawyers object to making the person the target rather than the evidence itself.

I also believe that it is easier to bully by just attacking the person's character or whatever rather than what the poster is writing about in their opinions.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Just wondering how many of you feel that the Political Board should be rough n tumble, bare knuckle politics? Do you think that Admin/Moderators should let us have at it or censor us?

I feel the current Admin/Monitors are doing a great job. The prior two admin/monitors were so biased in there own political opinion that it made this site a joke. Also, there are 5 or 6 folks on this board that would go insult crazy if unattended by Admin. I vote for Admin to protect site members from site members and censor even more than they do currently. There is nothing wrong with differing opinions, but some folks insult you for every post that they disagree with discouraging any debate and making most treads verbally violent arguments.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

They do a good job of getting rid of messages that are just personal attacks. I have very little use for the kind of argument that attacks the poster rather than the post.

It is very poor logic and etiquette to just make it about the person expressing the opinion. Seems very juvenile too to make the messenger pay for his/her opinions.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Just wondering how many of you feel that the Political Board should be rough n tumble, bare knuckle politics? Do you think that Admin/Moderators should let us have at it or censor us?

The problem with your suggestion is that what some might believe is "bare knuckles poitics" others may view as judgmental, rude, personal attacks and even disturbing.

Politics is personal because it is the sum total of what a person believes and what he represents himself to be and as such some folks just can't handle the truth because it conflicts with their beliefs.

In short I don't like to be monitored edited or deleted and of the only two times it was done I did not view my remarks as personal nor do I now. However I error on the side of caution and TOTV's policy of Admin/Moderators discretionarydeletion policy

the administrators are doing a great job keeping the forum and some of the purposely loose cannons sensible.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

the administrators are doing a great job keeping the forum and some of the purposely loose cannons sensible.

btk

So far I'm surprised so many of you want the protection of Mod.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

So far I'm surprised so many of you want the protection of Mod.

I know what can happen when things go chaotic with no rules being applied. The sysop --system operator-- on Findlaw's message board let anyone say anything and you could register with any name with no e-mail required. So, I had enemies on this Findlaw service pretending to be me and attacking other posters using my name or something like it. The Wild Wild West had more rules. Kind of fun at times unless you become the target of a lot of lawyers/law students/would be lawyers with a lot of free time on their hands.

Etiquette on many message boards has changed quite a bit since the days with little or no rules from 2000 through 2005.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I know what can happen when things go chaotic with no rules being applied. The sysop --system operator-- on Findlaw's message board let anyone say anything and you could register with any name with no e-mail required. So, I had enemies on this Findlaw service pretending to be me and attacking other posters using my name or something like it. The Wild Wild West had more rules. Kind of fun at times unless you become the target of a lot of lawyers/law students/would be lawyers with a lot of free time on their hands.

Etiquette on many message boards has changed quite a bit since the days with little or no rules from 2000 through 2005.

I think the sign up requirements are fine. Lately I noticed a tad too much "guidance" from Big Bro.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

I think the sign up requirements are fine. Lately I noticed a tad too much "guidance" from Big Bro.

I would rather have more rules than less. Just as long as I know what the rules actually are. I do not mind my posts occassionally being deleted.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

So far I'm surprised so many of you want the protection of Mod.

Posh: I learned long ago while serving in the Navy that when your asked to do something "volunteer"

Who cares....nothing anyone says changes anyone's mind any way.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Who cares....nothing anyone says changes anyone's mind any way.

But ya have to hear it, and if Big Bro say no, there ya go.

I think that by purposely subscribing and signing onto the political board here, you're saying "If I couldn't take the heat, I'd be staying out of the kitchen", and you're agreeing to get rotten tomatoes and lots of Alinsky-method ridicule thrown at you.

That said, I think the monitoring and deletions the moderators do are okay. Some people do attack a person so viciously that they are truly cyber-bullying....and driving away meeker people who would like to be heard.