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Old 08-11-2012, 11:02 PM
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The choice of Paul Ryan is a sign of weakness not of strength. With the election less than 90 days away and the popular vote now trending away from him, Romney apparently now feels the need to select a highly speculative vice-presidential nominee who, yes, can enrapture his often-doubtful conservative base and consolidate his party's 35-40% turnout, but what more?

Stephen Schlesinger: Raul Ryan -- Sarah Palin Redux?
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:40 AM
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The choice of Paul Ryan is a sign of weakness not of strength. With the election less than 90 days away and the popular vote now trending away from him, Romney apparently now feels the need to select a highly speculative vice-presidential nominee who, yes, can enrapture his often-doubtful conservative base and consolidate his party's 35-40% turnout, but what more?

Stephen Schlesinger: Raul Ryan -- Sarah Palin Redux?
I agree with this. Paul Ryan was a poor choice by Mitt Romney. The positives-- The names are alliterative and Ryan has a very attractive family. I actually liked Sarah Palin a lot more as a person than Paul Ryan too. The negatives-- Paul Ryan used to hand out books by Ayn Ryan and extolled her philosophy. Something about loving the philosophy of Ayn Rand really turns my stomach. Especially in a politician. To me, Ayn Rand stands for elitism and turning your back on people who need help to get by in this world. She smacks of Social Darwinism and the survival of the fittest in social circles. This is OK if you are in some cuthroat business but it is no way to run a country or state or city.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:09 AM
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I have to disagree with this one. I don't think Sarah could come close to the ability of Ryan.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:14 AM
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I have to disagree with this one. I don't think Sarah could come close to the ability of Ryan.
I meant that Sarah Palin was a better pick for John McCain than Ryan's is for Romney. Mainly because of how easy the politicos will have with attacking Ryan on his love of Ayn Rand's philosophy. Ryan has tried to distance himself from his former love of this writer's work over the past few months because even Ryan sees what a problem this may become.

I agree that Palin had a lot of problems. Palin did often talk without thinking about what she was saying and was often very ignorant about politics in many areas.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:51 AM
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This is all ridiculous. Romney was running, like it or not you lefties, on Ryan's budget plan. Now he's chosen the author of this plan, who is also the head of the Congressional Budget Commitee, to be his running mate. This is a serious choice and one that will make the budgetary differences between the failed Obama Administration as opposed to Romney's platform explode in stark contrasts.

The leftists will have to rely on their compliant lamestream mainstream media to bury this issue with their usual "take no prisoners" approach to reporting on conservatives.

You guys are not going to be able to pull a "Sarah Palin" on articulate Paul Ryan, in any event.

Obama doesn't have a convincing or commanding lead anywhere. All Romney and Ryan have to do is convince the "independents" of their vision and everything could change in very short order.

This is just the beginning and you unrepentant leftists think the game over?

A rude awakening is coming for you guys.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:10 AM
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This is all ridiculous. Romney was running, like it or not you lefties, on Ryan's budget plan. Now he's chosen the author of this plan, who is also the head of the Congressional Budget Commitee, to be his running mate. This is a serious choice and one that will make the budgetary differences between the failed Obama Administration as opposed to Romney's platform explode in stark contrasts.

The leftists will have to rely on their compliant lamestream mainstream media to bury this issue with their usual "take no prisoners" approach to reporting on conservatives.

You guys are not going to be able to pull a "Sarah Palin" on articulate Paul Ryan, in any event.

Obama doesn't have a convincing or commanding lead anywhere. All Romney and Ryan have to do is convince the "independents" of their vision and everything could change in very short order.

This is just the beginning and you unrepentant leftists think the game over?

A rude awakening is coming for you guys.
It will be a very hard sell of Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan to anyone but the very hardcore Republican base. Sarah Palin a least when she was chosen by the McCain campaign was a Governor with a good reputation in her state. Paul Ryan comes with a lot of baggage that will be very difficult to sell to people outside the fanatical Republicans who seem to support anyone who is part of the Republican political machine.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:19 AM
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Will the Romney Ryan duo take on even their own party to battle the deficit problem? If they would fight both parties to bring down the deficit, they would have my vote. I will watch closely in the next few weeks.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:25 AM
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Will the Romney Ryan duo take on even their own party to battle the deficit problem? If they would fight both parties to bring down the deficit, they would have my vote. I will watch closely in the next few weeks.
I have not heard any negative comments from the Republican side of the fence with respect to Paul Ryan's pick.
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:34 PM
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It will be a very hard sell of Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan to anyone but the very hardcore Republican base. Sarah Palin a least when she was chosen by the McCain campaign was a Governor with a good reputation in her state. Paul Ryan comes with a lot of baggage that will be very difficult to sell to people outside the fanatical Republicans who seem to support anyone who is part of the Republican political machine.
I think you're totally "out there" with this thinking. It's only the entitled liberal who's going to view Ryan as you've suggested. The American people know the country's economy is crashing and burning and Obama has only empty words and tired talking points to offer.

Romney and Ryan are proposing real time solutions; emphasizing how the proven resource of American exceptionalism, translated into hard work and shared sacrifice will vault this country out of Obama's depression and back on the road to solvency.

All the left has is whining and finger pointing and violent imagery.

I think I know which strategy is going to inspire the votes of the independents.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:00 PM
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what a mistake.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:10 PM
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what a mistake.
It's only liberals who think so.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:03 PM
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it is nothing more than the party line...no credence what so ever....just the faithful remaining true to their guy which is fine.

I would like to hear more from the opposition about why Ryan is such a bad pick instead of the really wacked out comparison to to Palin. How about some specific reasons why you think he is a bad choice.

What we know is he will in fact do battle with his own party as well as the other side of the aisle to get a budget.
This is the very thing the Obama administration is most fearful of....Romney and Ryan might just do what they say they are going to do.

So far just like on this forum all we get is the distractions.

Another couple of questions for the Obama supporters; is it OK with you that there is no budget (just a simple yes or no and not a bunch of excuses or red herrings). And in the unlikely event an answer is put forth...the second part is if yes, why is it OK?

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Old 08-13-2012, 03:28 AM
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it is nothing more than the party line...no credence what so ever....just the faithful remaining true to their guy which is fine.

I would like to hear more from the opposition about why Ryan is such a bad pick instead of the really wacked out comparison to to Palin. How about some specific reasons why you think he is a bad choice.

What we know is he will in fact do battle with his own party as well as the other side of the aisle to get a budget.
This is the very thing the Obama administration is most fearful of....Romney and Ryan might just do what they say they are going to do.

So far just like on this forum all we get is the distractions.

Another couple of questions for the Obama supporters; is it OK with you that there is no budget (just a simple yes or no and not a bunch of excuses or red herrings). And in the unlikely event an answer is put forth...the second part is if yes, why is it OK?

btk
NO.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:49 AM
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Ryan - another Con who has NEVER had a job. Before he was elected to Congress Ryan worked in his family business, Ryan Inc. Central, a construction firm his great-granddady founded. It's always the silver-spooners with the biggest family handouts who resent government aid the most. Ryan is the ultimate Washington insider - you know, the ones Willard keeps criticizing.

Ryan voted for steep educational cuts involving Head Start and college aid.

Ryan voted for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Ryan is against against gay adoptions

Ryan is against a hate-crimes law

Ryan is against abortion

Ryan is against gun control.

Ryan is against raising the minimum wage.

Ryan is against the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill.

Ryan voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which helps women fight for equal pay for equal work.

Ryan was a faithful rubber-stamp of the reckless economic policies of the Bush administration.

Wasn't it Newt who referred to Ryan's (now Romney's) budget as "right-wing social engineering"?

The Ostroy Report: <a name="81312">How Ryan Just Sank Romney's Campaign</a>
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According to the New York Times "Ryan shunned the 'Grand Bargain' to end the debt-ceiling standoff because, in part, he feared a it would be a boost for President Obama in 2012.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/us...ryan.html?_r=1
 


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