It is so complicated, I get lost in the spaces between paragraphs. I do not care if the snail darter remains on the endangered species list. Stop giving a single dollar to UNICORN, and so many others. OK I get that. BUT

I know of widows that live on less than 700 dollars in SS. Will they be cut even more????

Will the truly working poor still have an avenue for doctor care???

WILL THERE BE A PLAN TO CARE FOR OUR ELDERLY, POOR AND DISABLED CITIZENS under his proposed plan???

As much time as I spend on this board I guess I should know this already, but I do not and I am searching.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

It is so complicated, I get lost in the spaces between paragraphs. I do not care if the snail darter remains on the endangered species list. Stop giving a single dollar to UNICORN, and so many others. OK I get that. BUT

I know of widows that live on less than 700 dollars in SS. Will they be cut even more????

Will the truly working poor still have an avenue for doctor care???

WILL THERE BE A PLAN TO CARE FOR OUR ELDERLY, POOR AND DISABLED CITIZENS under his proposed plan???

As much time as I spend on this board I guess I should know this already, but I do not and I am searching.

This goes over some of the Paul Ryan budget plan. Guess what? No defense budget cuts.

Budget hawk: A closer look at the Ryan plan | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

This goes over some of the Paul Ryan budget plan. Guess what? No defense budget cuts.

Budget hawk: A closer look at the Ryan plan | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

Thank you. I read it and still a little fuzzy on what each cut would actually mean to poor and seniors, but if it would balance the budget, I like what I read. For months I have felt Ryan would be a good pick but then I am all about deficit reduction.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Thank you. I read it and still a little fuzzy on what each cut would actually mean to poor and seniors, but if it would balance the budget, I like what I read. For months I have felt Ryan would be a good pick but then I am all about deficit reduction.

Sure....to hell with senior and the poor as long as I am still comfortable.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Sure....to hell with senior and the poor as long as I am still comfortable.

Well, I did not mean it that definite. I want budget balance but I also want the poor and seniors WELL cared for. Can we have both? Maybe not, but I most of all do not want the US to go bankrupt.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Thank you. I read it and still a little fuzzy on what each cut would actually mean to poor and seniors, but if it would balance the budget, I like what I read. For months I have felt Ryan would be a good pick but then I am all about deficit reduction.

The existing Ryan plan....

DOES NOT, IN ANYWAY, IN ANY AREA TOUCH ANYONE OVER 55 !!!!!!!!

Suppose that you just moved to The Villages and you are a recent widower. So you go down to the local square and there you find a beautiful young thing that makes you feel 20 again. You get caught up in it all and marry her. A year later you see that your retirment savings is getting dangerously low. You approach your young wife and ask that she stop filing her nails and listen to you. You explain that you want her to have everything her heart desires but that the reality is that personal budgets, in fact every budget corproration government, etc must have priorities.

So you go about explaining the basics, food shelter and clothing. When you come to clothing she gets really excited so its OK if I get that new pair of Luboutin heels? No no you say I mean basic clothing needs. Well then she says does food mean we can still go out for all our meals because I ain't cooking and getting my hands raw. No no, I'll cook so we can save some money.

Well you aren't going to stop us going out every night are you. Well I do believe we do spent way too much for entertainment vactions to exotic places and that sort of thing.

She says, you know you ain't fun anymore I want a divorce. And he says well you know I think that even with a divorce settlement I can still hold my head above water and rebuild my reserves because you ae just too much of a spendthrift and not much of an earner and it can't continue that way.

Paul Ryan is a good human being and he is not going to hurt needy people but rather focus on irresponsible spending. But be confident that Obama will try and scare the bejesus out of specified groups of people like seniors

Originally Posted by Bucco

The existing Ryan plan....

DOES NOT, IN ANYWAY, IN ANY AREA TOUCH ANYONE OVER 55 !!!!!!!!

So that makes it OK? As long as it doesn't effect me? That's a bit egocentric and selfish is you ask me. Kinda like Ayn Rand.

Just ONCE I'd like to hear a politician address wasteful spending. The government wastes hundreds of billions of dollars every year. What about that?

There are dozens and dozens of programs that are duplicated. There is so much fraud, waste and abuse of tax payers money it's scary. I'll bet that in itself would go along way to help cutting the deficit.

No one ever seems to talk about that on either side. Once any program is in place and I'm sure there are many 1000's of them, they only grow in cost and waste. Not one of them is ever audited to see if it's even effective.

The left always demonizes the rich but the real crooks are right under their own nose. The government.

Originally Posted by dklassen

Just ONCE I'd like to hear a politician address wasteful spending. The government wastes hundreds of billions of dollars every year. What about that?

There are dozens and dozens of programs that are duplicated. There is so much fraud, waste and abuse of tax payers money it's scary. I'll bet that in itself would go along way to help cutting the deficit.

No one ever seems to talk about that on either side. Once any program is in place and I'm sure there are many 1000's of them, they only grow in cost and waste. Not one of them is ever audited to see if it's even effective.

The left always demonizes the rich but the real crooks are right under their own nose. The government.

Each program is in one of the politicians district so he/she won't say anything.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

So that makes it OK? As long as it doesn't effect me? That's a bit egocentric and selfish is you ask me. Kinda like Ayn Rand.

Yep, I would say it would make it okay with me, the social programs we have in place now aren't working anyway.

What's with all the Ayn Rand comments, read her books back in the day, found them entertaining, isn't she long dead?

There in lies our problem. So what do we do, let the government keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and spend more and more and more? Will Obama get control of it? I think not. In fact quite the oposite, everyone knows Obama is for larger government, not smaller.

To get this under control, it's gonna sting. But guess what, we're going broke and so is Medicare, Medicaid and SSI. All the tax increases you can think of on the rich won't change a damn thing. All it will do is give Obama and the other politicians more money to flush down the toilet.

The government is OUT OF CONTROL and Obama ain't the guy to fix it. So will Romney? Not sure but in my mind we'll have a better chance at least.

Government is never the answer... it's the problem.

According to the Ryan Budget, Mitt Romney's new effective tax rate would be .82%. That is correct, under 1%. No wonder he is cheering on the Ryan Budget.

Originally Posted by janmcn

According to the Ryan Budget, Mitt Romney's new effective tax rate would be .82%. That is correct, under 1%. No wonder he is cheering on the Ryan Budget.

Please supply a link to validate this claim ? Thank you

I actually found your link...the good old ATLANTIC...I do look for facts...just wanted you to know that.

Since the ONLY tax they spent anytime on was Romney and by the way they actually got the percentage wrong on that but I will post to you when I find a comparison of one individual person, although the discussion should be about the pluses and minus of the cuts that may or may not allow what you say....but then the idea is to destroy the man, not what is best for the country !

All I hear over and over and over and over and over is the rich should pay more, the rich should pay more, the rich should pay more. Over and over and over for the democrats. Are you people fixated on others that have more than you?

Ok, so lets say for the sake of argument I agree. We'll tax the rich more. Give Obama the over $250,000 tax increase. Ok great, done. That funds about 8.5 days more a year of the government.

Now what?

GUESS WHAT?? We're stil broke. Tax all the millionaires and billionaires at 100%

GUESS WHAT?? We're still broke.

Seriously, I'd like to to hear from the lefties, what next?