[billethkid]

Articles like this :

Gun crime has plunged, but Americans think it's up, says study - latimes.com

highlight the value of the internets access to many sources on ANY given subject. Those of us who take advantage of it get a much better perspective about the issues than is presented via the main stream media.

It does not mean that one's beliefs or views should change. It simply suggests that one must do one's home work to make a valid case.

As one of my professors used to say....it takes more than one point to make a curve!!

btk

[ugotme]

How right you are.

IF this is posted in certain papers and newscasts it is usually just "fluffed over."

I guess that is just the way it is!

[Taltarzac725]

Rate Of U.S. Gun Violence Has Fallen Since 1993, Study Says : The Two-Way : NPR

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Rate Of U.S. Gun Violence Has Fallen Since 1993, Study Says : The Two-Way : NPR

The last paragraph is very enlightening:

"In 2004 (the most recent year of data available), among state prison inmates who possessed a gun at the time of the offense, fewer than two percent bought their firearm at a flea market or gun show," according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. "About 10 percent of state prison inmates said they purchased it from a retail store or pawnshop, 37 percent obtained it from family or friends, and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal source."

btk

[Arctic Fox]

"In 2004 (the most recent year of data available)"

Where are the data for the past nine years?

Basing today's decisions on stats that are almost a decade old is a bit worrying

[bimmertl]

Just Google it. It's all over the "main stream media". So the LA Times isn't the "main stream" media. That's a new one.

Here it is from NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.

Gun crimes drop sharply - Video on NBCNews.com

[Taltarzac725]

I do not see the connection though with stopping either mentally ill or just plain evil mass murderers who go on rampages with various weapons with large magazines and a capacity to fire semi-automatically.

Statistically these mass shootings take very few lives but they also have a huge economic impact on the communities involved with mental illness treatment of victims' family members and other survivors, trials and incarceration of the shooters if they survive the violence, jobs lost to affects of this violence, police man hours, lawsuits, etc.

Still believe that common sense approaches to limiting access to ammunition, high capacity ammo cartridges, and to the rifles and pistols themselves would stop at least a few of these mass shooters.

[DDoug]

Thats a great article but my question is how do you get ,basically government influenced news media to report the whole truth. That is one of the bigger problems in this country is only half the truth is reported and that is where we get in trouble. Whole truths dont get people reelected

[JourneyOfLife]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Articles like this :

Gun crime has plunged, but Americans think it's up, says study - latimes.com

highlight the value of the internets access to many sources on ANY given subject. Those of us who take advantage of it get a much better perspective about the issues than is presented via the main stream media.

It does not mean that one's beliefs or views should change. It simply suggests that one must do one's home work to make a valid case.

As one of my professors used to say....it takes more than one point to make a curve!!

btk

I think the LA Times is considered by some to be a mainstream liberal media outlet.

Liberal bias - Conservapedia

[Parker]

I no longer assume the media is telling me the truth, as I did when I was a young person. I now know that much of what I read is biased in one way or the other, and sometimes it is downright deceptive. I've learned to check things out on my own from a variety of sources, and try to ferret out the real facts to form my own judgements on any given subject.

I liked it better when I didn't have to work that hard! It was foolish but it sure was easier!

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by bimmertl

Just Google it. It's all over the "main stream media". So the LA Times isn't the "main stream" media. That's a new one.

Here it is from NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.

Gun crimes drop sharply - Video on NBCNews.com

ahhh the beauty of more than one head in the game....thanx.

And as per usual Brian Williams will always, ALWAYS put the slant on the message they want the public left with. For example in this news clip all the stats show a significant down trend which he reports, however his last but, states that 70% of all murders are done with guns. That is very misleading and of course the last thing a person hears. Remember what he wants his audience to dwell on is the big number 70% "of all murders".

I errooneously refer to the network news broadcasts as mainstream media....perhaps the alphabet media is a better assignation.

At least his report updates the findings through 2011. Seems the real facts of the matter are the gun statistics are much different than most people are aware of in the normal (whatever that may be) reporting.

btk

[Geewiz]

I'm all in favor for parents buying their minor children "my first gun" and letting them kill their baby sisters...Darwin wins!

[buggyone]

I just saw a television news crawler saying a 3 year old Florida child shot himself with his father's gun.

Yep, the child should trained by the NRA in safe handling of a gun.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by Parker

I no longer assume the media is telling me the truth, as I did when I was a young person. I now know that much of what I read is biased in one way or the other, and sometimes it is downright deceptive. I've learned to check things out on my own from a variety of sources, and try to ferret out the real facts to form my own judgements on any given subject.

!

I wish everyone was informed as you. As a kid or young adult I figured if was on the news it was true. One of the biggest problems is what's NOT on the news. Mainstream media, NBC, etc, chose to ignore news which shows their viewpoint to be wrong.

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

I wish everyone was informed as you. As a kid or young adult I figured if was on the news it was true. One of the biggest problems is what's NOT on the news. Mainstream media, NBC, etc, chose to ignore news which shows their viewpoint to be wrong.

Back in the day of Edward R Murrow and Walter Cronkite, you could trust
those to be truthful, not so now.