[DDoug]

Could the situation in Syria trigger a world war if we go in . Russia already said they would back Assad

[kittygilchrist]

oh good grief...of course, it's Armageddon. Why didn't I think of that?
Zech 11, Ezek 38, Rev 12, Zech 14, Luke 21

Nope, it can't happen yet...no Antichrist..

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

oh good grief...of course, it's Armageddon. Why didn't I think of that?
Zech 11, Ezek 38, Rev 12, Zech 14, Luke 21

Nope, it can't happen yet...no Antichrist..

I think it's a legit point from the OP.

[rubicon]

The Syria situation is playing out like an scene from the keystone kops beginning with the US.

I take personal umbrage at the manner in which Washington openly debates what should be private and state information because they are accomplishing openly what they accused Ed Snowden of privately.

It is one thing to take its case to the people but my God they are debating strategy that belongs only in a round table meeting at the Pentagon.

The fact remains that this Admin and congress have little resolve and if they did attempt anything it would be half heartedly and frankly we are better off doing nothing.

This Admin mishandled the middle East from the beginning and hence we have a stronger Iran, Egypt in disarray, Benghazi scandal and, Iraq and Afgan returning power to terrorist .

Under those circumstances and the denials on who drew the red line just exactly who is going to trust America's leadership?

So we have little chance of a world war because all of us will just blink and deflate and innocent people will continue to die under barbaric solutions to a dictators problems

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

I think it's a legit point from the OP.

One never knows, do one?

[quirky3]

I worry that if the US decides to take unilateral action independent of the United Nations, it can intensify the negative feelings that already exist (both ways) between middle eastern countries and the US, and darken the feelings of people who have been moderates in the past. It could prolong and enlarge the cycle of frustrations, and give both sides more fuel for feeling justified in future aggression.

I don't know if you read the pope's advice, but I thought it was good.
“To the leaders present at the G2, to each and every one, I make a heartfelt appeal for them to help find ways to overcome the conflicting positions and to lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution,” Francis wrote.

“Confronted with similar acts one cannot remain silent, and the Holy See hopes that the competent institutions make clear what happened and that those responsible face justice,”

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by rubicon

The Syria situation is playing out like an scene from the keystone kops beginning with the US.

I take personal umbrage at the manner in which Washington openly debates what should be private and state information because they are accomplishing openly what they accused Ed Snowden of privately.

It is one thing to take its case to the people but my God they are debating strategy that belongs only in a round table meeting at the Pentagon.

The fact remains that this Admin and congress have little resolve and if they did attempt anything it would be half heartedly and frankly we are better off doing nothing.

This Admin mishandled the middle East from the beginning and hence we have a stronger Iran, Egypt in disarray, Benghazi scandal and, Iraq and Afgan returning power to terrorist .

Under those circumstances and the denials on who drew the red line just exactly who is going to trust America's leadership?

So we have little chance of a world war because all of us will just blink and deflate and innocent people will continue to die under barbaric solutions to a dictators problems

Rubicon, You say really smart things very articulately.
The defense minister nearly choked when Kerry wanted him to say it didn't make any difference militarily that we blabbed our surprise attack, took it back, and went to (televised)committee.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

One never knows, do one?

ANYTIME you start bombing an area that is very unstable, and has WMD's available, in addition to a region that has shown a total disregard for human life, things are possible.

I do think that it is a remote chance,but every time I do not think that way,I am reminded of a book I read about the sarin attack on the Tokyo subway in 1995 by a cult...a cult. It detailed their search for nuclear weapons initially and how easy (if you have the money) they were to get, mostly as a result of the USSR breakup. They found it easier to get the gas. This was a cult, not a terrorist org or a country.

Point is, these things are out there and insuring stability is the only way to feel, at least a bit, safe.

I am always reminded of this phrase when discussing action in the Middle East....KNOW YOUR ENEMIES

[DDoug]

In reference to the no Antichrist (are you sure)

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by quirky3

I worry that if the US decides to take unilateral action independent of the United Nations, it can intensify the negative feelings that already exist (both ways) between middle eastern countries and the US, and darken the feelings of people who have been moderates in the past. It could prolong and enlarge the cycle of frustrations, and give both sides more fuel for feeling justified in future aggression.

I don't know if you read the pope's advice, but I thought it was good.
“To the leaders present at the G2, to each and every one, I make a heartfelt appeal for them to help find ways to overcome the conflicting positions and to lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution,” Francis wrote.

“Confronted with similar acts one cannot remain silent, and the Holy See hopes that the competent institutions make clear what happened and that those responsible face justice,”

What you say is great, and possible a few years ago, but our foreign policy has been pretty confusing and incoherent in the Mideast. The assumption by our foreign policy that we can talk anyone into anything is not working.

This situation has been allowed to get out of control. As an example,there were threads started on this TOTV about Syria. Pretty much ignored by everyone here, which is not significant,but I bring it up to make a point.

We have ignored all of it, and this morning heard two military "experts" on CNN refer to the last few weeks and our policy in the region as "embarrassing" to the country. We, with our naive and arrogant know it all attitude, are/have backed our country into a corner.

We are talking about these chemical strikes, yet the admin has mislead the country, spent time and still do trying to ignore the killing of a USA ambassador. More time was spent on the POLITICAL ramifications of that attack on a US embassy that on this Syrian situation.

The Holy Father is on the right track. I was for simply backing our president, but watching the last weeks antics, I have changed my mind. He will not be embarrassed...it will be someone else's fault.

[JP]

Of course it could start a world war.

[chachacha]

since russian scientists are on the ground in syria working on their military efforts, we would end up killing russians and a third world war is a very real possibility...it makes one realize how things got slowly out of hand in past world conflagrations while citizens stood by helplessly discussing the possibilities! i am fasting and praying.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by chachacha

since russian scientists are on the ground in syria working on their military efforts, we would end up killing russians and a third world war is a very real possibility...it makes one realize how things got slowly out of hand in past world conflagrations while citizens stood by helplessly discussing the possibilities! i am fasting and praying.

keep up the good work, Dianne. You're doing something meaningful.
I read that Syrian defectors say Russia and Iran were supervising dissemination of the nerve gas.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by DDoug

Could the situation in Syria trigger a world war if we go in.

No, they are like kids in a school playground, pushing and shoving and making all manner of noises, but in the background there are real people talking, talking and talking.

If there was a world war everyone would be annihilated, none of these idiots are that stupid!

I think Assad will come up with some grand gesture of destroying weapons and things will go back to just killing people with guns and rockets.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

No, they are like kids in a school playground, pushing and shoving and making all manner of noises, but in the background there are real people talking, talking and talking.

If there was a world war everyone would be annihilated, none of these idiots are that stupid!

I think Assad will come up with some grand gesture of destroying weapons and things will go back to just killing people with guns and rockets.

I certainly hope you are right (imagine saying that when you talk about killing people with guns and rockets), but exactly who are these "real people" you mention......and on what grounds do you eliminate stupidity from what has occurred in the last 2 weeks or so ?