[oneclickplus]

HE has a Y chromosome. HE is not a she

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Imane Khelif is the topic of a lot of social controversy. .
Lets refresh her history to be sure we aren't getting misinformed by social propaganda

The Shameful Controversy Over Olympic Boxer Imane Khelif | WIRED

Seems to be its her turn to be the top of the hill in the type of field which the Olympics fields is much different than annual world championship events. .

So if the person has been medically cleared, has been competing in the same category all her life, not just now, and now the person starts to win, its time to be outraged on what grounds? first time awareness bias via social media?

Are you being fair or just being part of the headlines mob rule of everything you read on the internet is true? where was this outrage at the last Olympics?

yes part of the article is behind a paywall, for me as well, but the main points are visible after declining the subscription offer.

do you still think/feel that you aren't manipulated by news/social media? maybe Russian misinformation? 4 years of internet misinformation starting to confuse everyone?

[bobmarc]

CNN? Is that still on?

[MidWestIA]

Gets messy cuz Khelif after a gender eligibility test allegedly found she has XY chromosome before

My sister is a delivery room nurse she said some kids and born with male and female genitalia they have had a Dr remove one of them. Maybe that was her deal

[clouwho]

The very simple solution to this ridiculousness is to change the nomenclature in competitions to XX/XY/Alphabet Soup (or whatever term you want to use to describe the LGBTQIA… and whatever other letters have been added lately to the alphabet soup gang). This allows biological women to compete with biological women, biological men with Biological men, and can be verified with bloodwork and a birth certificate.
Or have a separate alphabet soup Olympics for trans/misgendered athletes. No different than having a special Olympics for people with various handicaps, and Paralympics for people with physical handicaps, EVERYONE can compete in their own wheelhouse.
It is tragic that we have let ourselves fall apart to this degree, but it would work and be easy to implement.

[OhioBuckeye]

Just me if IT was born a female always a female. IT’LL get her head ripped off & if IT will happen to win, the guy that lost should try there hardest to get into women’s sports then the women in that sport should cancel that sport, just my feelings!

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

It is. But, it also is not. Swyers syndrome is a case in point. For the most part, XX or XY is the standard by which scientists classify the remains of our ancestors when they dig up the remains. There is no record of " palentological preferred pronouns" used by our prehistoric ancestors. I am personally unaware of bones or teath that indicate extra chromosomes.
There are many kinds of oddities as a result of a variety of different syndromes and other irregularities. Extra chromosomes, limbs, teeth, webbing on hands or feet, and so on. These abnormalities may hinder or help these individuals depending on what their situation is. The Olympic games are a competition between athletes of specific groups or individuals. All competitors should (in my opinion) have the same basic qualifications to compete like for like. No extra enhancements. No extra arms (big advantage in boxing or wrestling perhaps), legs (running maybe), chromosomes (possible differences in development or distribution of muscle mass/strength).
Trans-athletes, belong with other trans-athletes to keep things truly fair for all.
Just my humble and imperfect opinion.

They are the exceptions that prove the rule.

[CybrSage]

IMO, give equal opportunities and create a trans sport league.
Men, women, trans. Sports is now saved and everyone is treated equally.

I feel oppressed I cannot compete in the Special Olympics. My ex said I should qualify...

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

There are obviously some rare exceptions, such as Swyer Syndrome, but in general, if your head and your crotch aren't wired together, don't blame your crotch.

Amen

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Bingo, we have a winner. She was born a female and is a female, she just has more testosterone than the average female. It happens.

The anti doping rules should be applied. Too high test, banned.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

IMO, give equal opportunities and create a trans sport league.
Men, women, trans. Sports is now saved and everyone is treated equally.

That will go over big. Want to become a sponsor?

Let's take it a step further. How about one for gays?

[Topspinmo]

What I’ve read ( for what that’s worth?) she born female with extremely high testosterone. IMO not uncommon with all the natural Tom boys around. Women weightlifter’s and bodybuilder’s good examples IMO. o add women rugby players also

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by banjobob

Just my opinion , if males are allowed to compete with females as equals in sports althogh men are proven to be superior in stength then physically castrate all the males that compete stopping testosterone advantage.

OUCH! I don't want a medal that bad. This I'll stay home and watch the sopranos compete. 🫠😉

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

What I’ve read ( for what that’s worth?) she born female with extremely high testosterone. IMO not uncommon with all the natural Tom boys around. Women weightlifter’s and bodybuilder’s good examples IMO. o add women rugby players also

Hope for more researched and intelligent answers like this one.

Some of those rugby players are very big. Probably for the scrums.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

That will go over big. Want to become a sponsor?

Let's take it a step further. How about one for gays?

Gays in all walks of life, including sports, is nothing new.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

The anti doping rules should be applied. Too high test, banned.

Why is the testosterone too high? Injections, Y chromosome? If Injections, anti doping would disqualify for all competition. If Y chromosome, may still qualify for men's sports, depending on other qualifiers. Details can matter.