Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2355440)

Imane Khelif is the topic of a lot of social controversy. .
Lets refresh her history to be sure we aren't getting misinformed by social propaganda

The Shameful Controversy Over Olympic Boxer Imane Khelif | WIRED

Seems to be its her turn to be the top of the hill in the type of field which the Olympics fields is much different than annual world championship events. .

So if the person has been medically cleared, has been competing in the same category all her life, not just now, and now the person starts to win, its time to be outraged on what grounds? first time awareness bias via social media?

Are you being fair or just being part of the headlines mob rule of everything you read on the internet is true? where was this outrage at the last Olympics?

yes part of the article is behind a paywall, for me as well, but the main points are visible after declining the subscription offer.

do you still think/feel that you aren't manipulated by news/social media? maybe Russian misinformation? 4 years of internet misinformation starting to confuse everyone?

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2355541)

It is. But, it also is not. Swyers syndrome is a case in point. For the most part, XX or XY is the standard by which scientists classify the remains of our ancestors when they dig up the remains. There is no record of " palentological preferred pronouns" used by our prehistoric ancestors. I am personally unaware of bones or teath that indicate extra chromosomes.
There are many kinds of oddities as a result of a variety of different syndromes and other irregularities. Extra chromosomes, limbs, teeth, webbing on hands or feet, and so on. These abnormalities may hinder or help these individuals depending on what their situation is. The Olympic games are a competition between athletes of specific groups or individuals. All competitors should (in my opinion) have the same basic qualifications to compete like for like. No extra enhancements. No extra arms (big advantage in boxing or wrestling perhaps), legs (running maybe), chromosomes (possible differences in development or distribution of muscle mass/strength).
Trans-athletes, belong with other trans-athletes to keep things truly fair for all.
Just my humble and imperfect opinion.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2355737)

There are obviously some rare exceptions, such as Swyer Syndrome, but in general, if your head and your crotch aren't wired together, don't blame your crotch.

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2355756)

Bingo, we have a winner. She was born a female and is a female, she just has more testosterone than the average female. It happens.

Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2355830)

IMO, give equal opportunities and create a trans sport league.
Men, women, trans. Sports is now saved and everyone is treated equally.

Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2355758)

Just my opinion , if males are allowed to compete with females as equals in sports althogh men are proven to be superior in stength then physically castrate all the males that compete stopping testosterone advantage.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2355836)

What I’ve read ( for what that’s worth?) she born female with extremely high testosterone. IMO not uncommon with all the natural Tom boys around. Women weightlifter’s and bodybuilder’s good examples IMO. :duck: o add women rugby players also:shocked:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2355834)

That will go over big. Want to become a sponsor?

Let's take it a step further. How about one for gays?

Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2355833)

The anti doping rules should be applied. Too high test, banned.