Which horse do you think will win the Kentucky Derby?

View Poll Results: Which horse do you think will win the Kentucky Derby?
Union Rags 6 24.00%
Creative Cause 1 4.00%
Take Charge Indy 1 4.00%
Hansen 1 4.00%
Bodemeister 4 16.00%
Gemologist 1 4.00%
I'll Have Another 8 32.00%
Grace Hall 1 4.00%
Dullahan 1 4.00%
Some other horse 1 4.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 05-02-2012, 08:39 AM
kathy and al kathy and al is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: TV, Vero Beach, Fl., Ft. Lauderdale, Fl., Boston, Ma.
Posts: 363
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo2012 View Post
Sure the trainer is important, but since their trainers isn't that self serving?

I'm an owner here in NY, the trainers IMO are all good or there no longer here.

I'll bet on the horses ability.

anyone have a list of what the entries cost if they went thru auction?
To anwer your question-if you were to enter a horse of racing age at the Ocala Breeder's Sale auction then you would pay approx. a $300 entry fee and then 5% of the sale price up to $50,000 or 2 1/2% of the sale price above $50,000. I believe these are the current rates for this particular auction in Florida.
__________________
Kathy & Al
  #17  
Old 05-02-2012, 10:36 AM
jimbo2012's Avatar
jimbo2012 jimbo2012 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LI, NY >Fernandina South
Posts: 7,268
Thanks: 92
Thanked 173 Times in 98 Posts
Default

That wasn't my question.

What did the owners of the horses racing in derby pay for them at action if known.
__________________
Nova Water filters
  #18  
Old 05-02-2012, 10:38 AM
jblum315's Avatar
jblum315 jblum315 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,880
Thanks: 1
Thanked 40 Times in 23 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo2012 View Post
That wasn't my question.

What did the owners of the horses racing in derby pay for them at action if known.
I doubt that is public information.
  #19  
Old 05-02-2012, 11:17 AM
jimbo2012's Avatar
jimbo2012 jimbo2012 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LI, NY >Fernandina South
Posts: 7,268
Thanks: 92
Thanked 173 Times in 98 Posts
Default

It's very public it is listed in the racing form the day before.
the experts are ranking the top 4 as follows

Creative Cause
Gemologist
Hansen
Alpha
__________________
Nova Water filters

Last edited by jimbo2012; 05-02-2012 at 11:56 AM.
  #20  
Old 05-05-2012, 12:18 PM
lovesports lovesports is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 365
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Smile Many Ocala connections in the Derby Today!

At least 11 of the 20 horses running in the Kentucky Derby today once called Ocala area home.
Found the info on Ocala.com.
Through the years I have noticed many many horses have connections to Ocala.(training) The last Triple Crown Winner -Affirm- was a total Ocala Horse. I think Big Brown was a Florida Horse too.
Makes the Derby more fun to watch.
  #21  
Old 05-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 49,400
Thanks: 9,453
Thanked 3,320 Times in 2,057 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lovesports View Post
At least 11 of the 20 horses running in the Kentucky Derby today once called Ocala area home.
Found the info on Ocala.com.
Through the years I have noticed many many horses have connections to Ocala.(training) The last Triple Crown Winner -Affirm- was a total Ocala Horse. I think Big Brown was a Florida Horse too.
Makes the Derby more fun to watch.
I had been looking for that information. Thanks lovesports!
  #22  
Old 05-05-2012, 12:55 PM
jimbo2012's Avatar
jimbo2012 jimbo2012 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LI, NY >Fernandina South
Posts: 7,268
Thanks: 92
Thanked 173 Times in 98 Posts
Default

Excerpt from bleacherreport.com

Union Rags (9/2)

The Villages Florida


Take Charge Indy should be a legitimate favorite.

Remember the Florida Derby that Union Rags was so disappointing in? Yeah, Take Charge Indy won that with relative ease.

Throw in the fact that three-time Kentucky Derby winner Calvin Borel is the jockey and he has the No. 3 post position (Borel loves getting to the rail), and you've got my pick to win the Kentucky Derby.

The Villages Florida

Somehow Gemologist, who is undefeated in five races and two-for-two at Churchill Downs, is being overlooked.

The incredibly fast horse has the third-best odds of any horse, but I'm honestly a little surprised he doesn't have the best.

Gemologist is coming off an impressive win at the Grade-1 Wood Memorial and has apparently looked very good during pre-race training.

He should be the favorite, not the third favorite.

The Villages Florida
__________________
Nova Water filters

Last edited by jimbo2012; 05-05-2012 at 02:16 PM.
  #23  
Old 05-05-2012, 01:54 PM
lovesports lovesports is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 365
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Good Underdog Story

Take Charge Indy has quite a history.
Don't have it in front of me but I believe he was a horse no one wanted. A women in Ocala bought him and broke him and he grew into a beautiful horse. She made a good deal of money when she sold him.
Someone fill in the details here. I'm on my way to a Derby party.
  #24  
Old 05-05-2012, 01:57 PM
chuckinca's Avatar
chuckinca chuckinca is offline
Sage
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,904
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default




Take Charge Indy with Calvin Borel up gets my bet and opening at 15-1

(I worked at Arlington and Washington Parks in the concessions office for two years out of HS so that makes me an expert too)


.
__________________
Da Chicago So Side; The Village of Park Forest, IL; 3/7 Cav, 3rd Inf Div, Schweinfurt, Ger 65-66; MACV J12 Saigon 66-67; San Leandro, Hayward & Union City, CA (San Francisco East Bay Area) GO DUBS ! (aka W's)
  #25  
Old 05-05-2012, 01:57 PM
Bill-n-Brillo's Avatar
Bill-n-Brillo Bill-n-Brillo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Granville, OH.....and TV snowflakes!
Posts: 6,905
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Would probably be appropriate and proper to cite/credit the author and the article you're quoting from, jimbo.

Bill
  #26  
Old 05-05-2012, 08:21 PM
lovesports lovesports is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 365
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Ocala Connection to Derby winner

Today's winner-I'll Have Another- was broken and trained in Ocala.
  #27  
Old 05-05-2012, 08:30 PM
jimbo2012's Avatar
jimbo2012 jimbo2012 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LI, NY >Fernandina South
Posts: 7,268
Thanks: 92
Thanked 173 Times in 98 Posts
Default

He was sold as a yearling for $11000, great job from a low level trainer & rider to beat the millionaires.

The Villages Florida


Also Bodemeister deserves kudos also to run the front end almost to the wire, great horse.

Bad news was Take charge Indy and Daddy Long Legs pulled up, hopefully not injured badly.
__________________
Nova Water filters
  #28  
Old 05-06-2012, 07:36 AM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 49,400
Thanks: 9,453
Thanked 3,320 Times in 2,057 Posts
Default

Probably will not be a Triple Crown winner again this year though. Congrats to I'll Have Another though.
  #29  
Old 05-06-2012, 07:48 AM
kathy and al kathy and al is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: TV, Vero Beach, Fl., Ft. Lauderdale, Fl., Boston, Ma.
Posts: 363
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lovesports View Post
Today's winner-I'll Have Another- was broken and trained in Ocala.
I'll Have Another was sold as a yearling for $11,000 and then pin hooked in the April 2011 Ocala Breeders Sales for $35,000.
For those of you who don't understand "pinhooked", it's a person who buys a horse out of one sale (usually yearling sales) with the sole purpose of developing the horse for 1 year and then turn around and run him through the auction as a 2 year old hopefully to gain a profit.
__________________
Kathy & Al
  #30  
Old 05-06-2012, 07:54 AM
kathy and al kathy and al is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: TV, Vero Beach, Fl., Ft. Lauderdale, Fl., Boston, Ma.
Posts: 363
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I'm trying to figure out these poll results. Yesterday (Sat. 5/5 prior to post time of the Derby) there were no votes for I'll Have Another in the poll. This morning there are 8 votes for the winner!!!! Pretty easy to pick the winner in this poll after the race is run. Also, the poll says that it is open until May 9th????????????? Is there something I don't understand here??
__________________
Kathy & Al
Closed Thread


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:44 AM.