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JourneyOfLife 12-28-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyCrocked (Post 802334)
Another area that people should do a couple of minutes of research on is who makes money from the ticket sales. Belfort sold the rights back in 2011 to Dicaprio. He does not make one more dime because you buy a ticket.
He is also a motivational speaker who gets $30k per appearance. Maybe the ire should be directed at those who pay him for appearances instead of falsely thinking that if you see a movie, you have an effect on his income.

I think the lawyers and federal prosecutors are sniffing around.

Real 'Wolf of Wall Street' Jordan Belfort still owes millions to victims: prosecutors - NY Daily News


It might turn out, eventually, that much of those funds are used to pay restitution.

However, the court needs to get in the middle of his income streams and distribute the money to the people that should get it. Obviously the man needs money to live on... otherwise he would be a public burden. But he should not get anymore than is needed to live and keep him earning restitution money!

The Feds need to begin closely watching his finances.

billethkid 12-28-2013 01:28 PM

many of us do not buy the phraseology that this movie is a "snap shot" of behavior on Wall Street.

Does it reflect SOME behavior? Of course but the same applies to any profession.

The movie does not project how the masses live today or yesterday or yesteryear.

Peachie 12-28-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyCrocked (Post 802334)
Another area that people should do a couple of minutes of research on is who makes money from the ticket sales. Belfort sold the rights back in 2011 to Dicaprio. He does not make one more dime because you buy a ticket.
He is also a motivational speaker who gets $30k per appearance. Maybe the ire should be directed at those who pay him for appearances instead of falsely thinking that if you see a movie, you have an effect on his income.

I have no problem if ONE feels this movie should be supported, I personally don't. I consider it glorification and financial reward of a very seedy life. If someone is caught in human trafficking and writes a book on how successful they were at having this life and didn't get a dime off the movie but reaped the rewards from selling the movie rights, I wouldn't go see that either. ONE shouldn't kid ONES self into believing Jordon Belfort didn't make any money from this, he SOLD the rights to Dicaprio. If people don't go see the movie, these criminals can't profit. It's beyond my thinking how Belfort would be considered a motivational speaker.

Villages PL 12-28-2013 02:05 PM

I didn't grow up in a household or neighborhood where there was foul language, so to me it is low-life stupid behavior. I think filmmakers include it mostly to attract certain movie-going teenagers. (But not all teenagers like foul language.)

Wall Street greed and corruption: Boring! It has been done; it's nothing new. And a 3 hour movie is much too long for that sort of thing.

From what I have heard and read about the movie, I have decided not to waste my time and money on it.

I agree with those who think that a movie should be good clean fun, relaxing, and enjoyable. When every other word is the "F" word I feel it as an insult.

Peachie 12-28-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyCrocked (Post 802334)
Another area that people should do a couple of minutes of research on is who makes money from the ticket sales. Belfort sold the rights back in 2011 to Dicaprio.

Maybe the ire should be directed at those who pay him for appearances instead of falsely thinking that if you see a movie, you have an effect on his income.



In this portion of this quote it is stated that we are thinking falsely if we believe this will have an effect on Belfort's income.

If ONE believes that people not attending these movies won't have any effect on the Dicaprio's of this world buying the rights, I think ONE is mistaken. The book was hawked by an agent with the intention of profiting Belfort with a very tidy sum and a continued movie audience props up his "motivational" speaking revenue. Surely ONE must see that.

JourneyOfLife 12-28-2013 03:13 PM

I am curious....

How many of you were in the military.... any branch?

Peachie 12-28-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyCrocked (Post 802407)
Originally Posted by Admin
Comments are to never be directed at another user per the site rules.

Please stop directing comments at me.

Fixed 'em all up so they are not directed at you, (other than the quoties, can't change those).

Peachie 12-28-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyCrocked (Post 802375)
Please point out where I said this movie should be supported.
Please point out where I said Jordan Belfort didn't make any money from this.
Please read my posts thoroughly before addressing me personally.

I have been advised not to address people personally so I sure won't be doing that here! :wave:

Golfingnut 12-28-2013 04:02 PM

Army. 22 Years.

Barefoot 12-28-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Former Michiganders (Post 802175)
We went to American Hustle yesterday and the F word was flying practically every other word. This was also a movie that got very high ratings! I would give this three thumbs down if I had them! I'm learning not to trust any of the movie reviews!

We also went to American Hustle yesterday. I didn't love the movie, but I thought it was very well acted and had an interesting plot.

Before I go to a movie, I always check it out on Rotten Tomatoes ... both the critics' ratings, and the audience ratings, often quite different. And anyone can watch movie trailers on the internet before attending a movie to determine whether it would be offensive.

I know this thread is about movies, but I can't resist saying that I find performances by Miley Cyrus to be far more offensive than any movie. And many teenage girls worship her. :eek:

Barefoot 12-28-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 802078)
What I'm raving about is the Brownwood Theater. Absolutely gorgeous, the seats are so comfortable with leg room galore.

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 802158)
Agreed. Only problem is...I'm spoiled. I'm 6'-6" tall and I'll probably never go to SS or LSL theaters again. :^)

That's exactly what we said. It was our first time at Brownwood Theater and I absolutely loved it. The leg room is incredible. If you haven't tried Brownwood Theater yet, you're really missing out!

JourneyOfLife 12-28-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 802452)
Army. 22 Years.

I was in the Marine Corp.

My guess is that all those soldiers in your units were perfect angels with nary a curse passing their lips? {Sarcasm}

Profanity is embedded in the culture of the military.

Yes they all cuss like sailors!

Why? For most, youth and immaturity.

Anybody that thinks the language is much more tame in most college fraternities or sororities... well ok... and they don't drink alcohol either!


I am not saying it is right or good behavior. But that it is reality.


Maybe that film attempted to reflect more reality than some viewers were prepared to accept.

Peachie 12-28-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JourneyOfLife (Post 802496)
I was in the Marine Corp.

My guess is that all those soldiers in your units were perfect angels with nary a curse passing their lips? {Sarcasm}

Profanity is embedded in the culture of the military.

Yes they all cuss like sailors!

Why? For most, youth and immaturity.

Anybody that thinks the language is much more tame in most college fraternities or sororities... well ok... and they don't drink alcohol either!


I am not saying it is right or good behavior. But that it is reality.


Maybe that film attempted to reflect more reality than some viewers were prepared to accept.

I don't know that people are much shocked with swearing anymore. Has one ever walked by a group of teenagers hanging out at the mall? They make the Marines sound like choir boys. We can chose what we want to see and hear in the theater at this time in our life. A great many of us have heard it all and don't want to accept it and will often pass on the continuing, monotonous swearing in film.

JourneyOfLife 12-28-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachie (Post 802511)
I don't know that people are much shocked with swearing anymore. Has one ever walked by a group of teenagers hanging out at the mall? They make the Marines sound like choir boys. We can chose what we want to see and hear in the theater at this time in our life. A great many of us have heard it all and don't want to accept it and will often pass on the continuing, monotonous swearing in film.

Absolutely. It is America. Consumers can pick and choose.

Those film ratings are intend to give viewers some insight about the nature of the content.

It makes me wonder how some people ended up going to an R rated film in the first place.

http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means

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R — Restricted. Children Under 17 Require Accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian. An R-rated motion picture, in the view of the Rating Board, contains some adult material. An R-rated motion picture may include adult themes, adult activity, hard language, intense or persistent violence, sexually-oriented nudity, drug abuse or other elements, so that parents are counseled to take this rating very seriously. Children under 17 are not allowed to attend R-rated motion pictures unaccompanied by a parent or adult guardian. Parents are strongly urged to find out more about R-rated motion pictures in determining their suitability for their children. Generally, it is not appropriate for parents to bring their young children with them to R-rated motion pictures.

onslowe 12-28-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo (Post 802197)
I have not seen the Wolf of Wall Street and won't based on this blog that a friend posted on Facebook. It's written by the daughter of Tom Prousalis, the protagonist in the movie. The blog is a poignant account of the impact on the lives of the family and his victims.
An Open Letter to the Makers of The Wolf of Wall Street, and the Wolf Himself

Wow, that was powerful. Thank you Jojo. Isn't it sad. Hollywood's clique sees fit to try to shove greed, coarse language (oh yes, "today's language" by those who have succumbed to this inarticulate society, and victimizing innocent people down our throats calling it entertainment. Let's not look at the victims - they deserve it or are 'collateral damage.'


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