[Mark1976]

I agree the sight lines aren’t good. I avoid making left turns there. It’s a high alert intersection for sure

[Wilson02852]

Just never realized how many "expert" traffic engineers retired to The Villages. Always just thought the accidents were caused by IOPs or bad drivers.

[bowlingal]

Get off your phones!!

[bark4me]

Originally Posted by alanmcdonald

There have been at least three accidents at the intersection of 466a and Buena Vista this week, not to mention the fatal motorcycle accident recently.

The problem is the yellow left turn signals that permit left turns in a place where it is impossible to see the oncoming traffic due to it being blocked by cars in the left turn lane.

Also, if you are in the left turn lane and do not try to turn on the yellow arrow the cars behind you start honking to get you to move.

What needs to happen to get the yellow arrows removed and red lights for the turn lanes when there is no green left turn arrow?

You're gonna need to call FDOT about that. I'm sure local LEO have already brought it to their attention. My opinion, if I can't see past the cars to know what is coming, I'm staying in place. If the hockey's wanna go around me and give it a shot, let um. I'll be a great witness for "Failure to yield right of way making a left turn".

[HospitalCoder]

Originally Posted by alanmcdonald

There have been at least three accidents at the intersection of 466a and Buena Vista this week, not to mention the fatal motorcycle accident recently.

The problem is the yellow left turn signals that permit left turns in a place where it is impossible to see the oncoming traffic due to it being blocked by cars in the left turn lane.

Also, if you are in the left turn lane and do not try to turn on the yellow arrow the cars behind you start honking to get you to move.

What needs to happen to get the yellow arrows removed and red lights for the turn lanes when there is no green left turn arrow?

Personally, I think the problem is an excessive speed limit in a congested area and a lack of traffic light coordination. Cars are traveling 45-55 mph and after getting stopped light after light, they are more likely to blow through a red light. The speed limit from 301 to Buena Vista needs to be reduced.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by HospitalCoder

Personally, I think the problem is an excessive speed limit in a congested area and a lack of traffic light coordination. Cars are traveling 45-55 mph and after getting stopped light after light, they are more likely to blow through a red light. The speed limit from 301 to Buena Vista needs to be reduced.

See post #17

[CartColor]

44 and Morse would be much safer if they would reduce speed limit on Morse south of 44 to 35mph just like it is north of 44. Cars are flying down Morse at 55 and 60. They come ripping thru the north bound Warm springs by pass like a bat out of hell. We'll be picking up pieces of gammy one day after she misjudges the F350 dually coming around the horn at 60. Westbound 44 should have a gradual reduced speed limit from before Walgreens all the way to 301. 55mph is just too fast for a growing populated area. Entering Leesburg has gradual reduction as you approach 441. Only makes sense. And since millions of tax dollars are pouring into Wildwood and the county, maybe they can buy a street sweeper to clean up the intersection debris and crap all over the road. Be safe out there.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Mike Dybas

44 and Morse would be much safer if they would reduce speed limit on Morse south of 44 to 35mph just like it is north of 44. Cars are flying down Morse at 55 and 60. They come ripping thru the north bound Warm springs by pass like a bat out of hell. We'll be picking up pieces of gammy one day after she misjudges the F350 dually coming around the horn at 60. Westbound 44 should have a gradual reduced speed limit from before Walgreens all the way to 301. 55mph is just too fast for a growing populated area. Entering Leesburg has gradual reduction as you approach 441. Only makes sense. And since millions of tax dollars are pouring into Wildwood and the county, maybe they can buy a street sweeper to clean up the intersection debris and crap all over the road. Be safe out there.

Also see post #17

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by HospitalCoder

Personally, I think the problem is an excessive speed limit in a congested area and a lack of traffic light coordination. Cars are traveling 45-55 mph and after getting stopped light after light, they are more likely to blow through a red light. The speed limit from 301 to Buena Vista needs to be reduced.

??? The posted speed limit in that area is 45mph. How would lowering the speed limit make any difference if drivers are ignoring it now? If they are impatient at a posted 45mph are they going to be LESS impatient with a posted 40mph? If they are ignoring the posted speed limits and ignoring the red lights are they all of a sudden going to start obeying the signs if the speed limit is lowered?

[HospitalCoder]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

??? The posted speed limit in that area is 45mph. How would lowering the speed limit make any difference if drivers are ignoring it now? If they are impatient at a posted 45mph are they going to be LESS impatient with a posted 40mph? If they are ignoring the posted speed limits and ignoring the red lights are they all of a sudden going to start obeying the signs if the speed limit is lowered?

Because speeders on local roads typically drive 5 to 10 mph over the posted limit. Additionally, there are plenty of people who do go the speed limit and that should slow speeders down.

[Jacob85]

I totally agree that something needs to be done. There needs to be a red arrow after the yellow. I don’t know why it’s not on there!

[Jacob85]

It’s a problem because the driver behind you like one reply I read earlier, is on your back and puts pressure on you if you don’t go and can’t see around a car that is turning. It’s an obvious dangerous situation

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Jacob85

I totally agree that something needs to be done. There needs to be a red arrow after the yellow. I don’t know why it’s not on there!

It's not there, mainly because it would cause other problems, and the ownness is upon the driver to know how to drive. But, as posted above, it will probably be there soon since we are playing to the least common denominator of poorly skilled drivers.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by HospitalCoder

Because speeders on local roads typically drive 5 to 10 mph over the posted limit. Additionally, there are plenty of people who do go the speed limit and that should slow speeders down.

Interesting. Do you imagine the speeders do the math in their head and then travel 5 to 10 mph over the posted limit or do they travel what they perceive to be a safe speed and it just happens that the posted limit is 5 to 10 mph below that?

I would say it's the latter - that speed limits may have represented a safe speed at one point but were then reduced for one reason or another to the point that drivers recognize they are artificially low and ignore them.

Of course, there are also some drivers who drive far too fast (or too slow); these drivers are clearly a problem.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Jacob85

It’s a problem because the driver behind you like one reply I read earlier, is on your back and puts pressure on you if you don’t go and can’t see around a car that is turning. It’s an obvious dangerous situation

Are you saying that you would blindly turn in front of traffic heading at 45+ mph at you because the person behind has "put pressure on you"???? Hmmm.....