[Babubhat]

Left Massey for Dean’s. Dissatisfied with there explanation of costs once the initial 5 years was up

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Left Massey for Dean’s. Dissatisfied with there explanation of costs once the initial 5 years was up

When I renewed after 5 years, Massey gave me a 10 year termite contract. Dean's would only provide a one year, year-to-year contract, with no guarantee of renewal or cost.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Thank you for the insult. I stated what I would do and not do and you insult me.

I did NOT insult you! I simply said that it was absurd and ridiculous for someone to NOT buy a house that didn't have a termite contract. The proof is in the pudding. Millions of houses did NOT have that kind of contract and were successfully sold and were termite-free!

Mortgage companies will not approve a mortgage unless a proof the structure is termite free.

Of course! That is why a lender requires that kind of inspection. But if the house did not have a termite contract as long as no evidence of termites was found, that is all that is necessary. Hence, my prior remark.

So, termites are a issue for selling your house. The mortgage company is willing to finance a house that has been inspected and said to be termite free. I simply take that another step, I won't buy a house that has not been continuously protected. I am sorry that causes you so much anger you must insult and ridicule me for having a different opinion than you.

Termites are only an issue for getting a mortgage. I simply said it was ridiculous for someone not to accept a termite-free inspection. What you do doesn't cause me any anger. I simply think you are foolish to have the mindset you have in regard to ONLY buying a property that has had a termite contract when the inspection will show you what you need to know. I doubt that there are many people who would disagree with what I have said.


Termites are estimated to infect 1 in 10 houses in Florida, not all infected houses are damaged severely.
Termites damage approximately 600,000 homes in the U.S. each year.
U.S. residents spend an estimated $5 billion annually to control termites and repair termite damage.
According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), U.S. residents spend at least $1 billion on Formosan termite control and repairs each year. Some experts estimate the number is closer to $2 billion.
Each year, termites and similar pests cause an estimated $30 billion in damage to crops and man-made structures in the U.S.
A homeowner who discovers termite damage will spend an average of $3,000 to repair the damage.

You have cherry-picked much of the above information to satisfy your own termite obsession, and much of what you consider factual above, isn't! For example, I am willing to bet that more than 1 in 10 houses show some kind of termites. Conversely, most homeowners do not spend anything close to $3,000 to repair termite damage unless the damage is severe, which most of the time it isn't.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DALEPQ

Recently met with Massey about Termite service, they were quite convincing about their
service, haven't done anything with them yet.
Would like to know if there are any actual statistics on Termite infections for homes in T.V. Not who is getting service, but actual infestations. From what I have heard there are
very few, but don't have any statistics. I do know that properties are treated prior to construction.
Thanks for any info.

Somehow I think that infestation is what insects do and "infection" is more of a medical term?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

You have cherry-picked much of the above information to satisfy your own termite obsession, and much of what you consider factual above, isn't! For example, I am willing to bet that more than 1 in 10 houses show some kind of termites. Conversely, most homeowners do not spend anything close to $3,000 to repair termite damage unless the damage is severe, which most of the time it isn't.

Good to know you don't cherry pick fact to suit your agenda or obsession. Thanks I will be looking forward to more of your unsubstantiated posts.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Good to know you don't cherry pick fact to suit your agenda or obsession. Thanks I will be looking forward to more of your unsubstantiated posts.

I have copied my entire comment (highlighted in color below) to which you made reference since you only copied one paragraph which did not cover much. I mentioned your obsession which is only buying a property that has an ongoing termite treatment. You mention my obsession. How about telling me what that is??? And while you're at it, you can mention what my unsubstantiated posts are? And also, what posts did I cherry-pick?

You made those comments. Back them up!

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Originally Posted by MartinSE View Post
Thank you for the insult. I stated what I would do and not do and you insult me.

I did NOT insult you! I simply said that it was absurd and ridiculous for someone to NOT buy a house that didn't have a termite contract. The proof is in the pudding. Millions of houses did NOT have that kind of contract and were successfully sold and were termite-free!

Mortgage companies will not approve a mortgage unless a proof the structure is termite free.

Of course! That is why a lender requires that kind of inspection. But if the house did not have a termite contract as long as no evidence of termites was found, that is all that is necessary. Hence, my prior remark.

So, termites are a issue for selling your house. The mortgage company is willing to finance a house that has been inspected and said to be termite free. I simply take that another step, I won't buy a house that has not been continuously protected. I am sorry that causes you so much anger you must insult and ridicule me for having a different opinion than you.

Termites are only an issue for getting a mortgage. I simply said it was ridiculous for someone not to accept a termite-free inspection. What you do doesn't cause me any anger. I simply think you are foolish to have the mindset you have in regard to ONLY buying a property that has had a termite contract when the inspection will show you what you need to know. I doubt that there are many people who would disagree with what I have said.


Termites are estimated to infect 1 in 10 houses in Florida, not all infected houses are damaged severely.
Termites damage approximately 600,000 homes in the U.S. each year.
U.S. residents spend an estimated $5 billion annually to control termites and repair termite damage.
According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), U.S. residents spend at least $1 billion on Formosan termite control and repairs each year. Some experts estimate the number is closer to $2 billion.
Each year, termites and similar pests cause an estimated $30 billion in damage to crops and man-made structures in the U.S.
A homeowner who discovers termite damage will spend an average of $3,000 to repair the damage.

You have cherry-picked much of the above information to satisfy your own termite obsession, and much of what you consider factual above, isn't! For example, I am willing to bet that more than 1 in 10 houses show some kind of termites. Conversely, most homeowners do not spend anything close to $3,000 to repair termite damage unless the damage is severe, which most of the time it isn't.
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[Sabella]

Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe

That system has currently changed over the last couple of years. I was under the same system with Massey and they now have the option to have "metal holders" with termite control, put around my home. This is Life Time Warrantee and can be transferred when you sell your home. They come once a year to check the property and add to the metal holders more termite control. Living in Floridia is a bug state just with the type of weather and with all the golf courses, I was told even more so for termites. It is a protection for your home. I had termites years ago up North and It cost me $$$$ to repair. You may not have termites but your neighbor may and they will travel to your house. I do have Massey for l2 years and have never been disappointed. PRofessional, in every way.

. I have.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

When our neighbors went to sell their home termites were found in the wood that supports the AC unit in the garage. They had not idea.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Good to know you don't cherry pick fact to suit your agenda or obsession. Thanks I will be looking forward to more of your unsubstantiated posts.

[QUOTE=Bonanza;2072532]I have copied my entire comment (highlighted in color below) to which you made reference since you only copied one paragraph which did not cover much. I mentioned your obsession which is only buying a property that has an ongoing termite treatment. You mention my obsession. How about telling me what that is??? And while you're at it, you can mention what my unsubstantiated posts are? And also, what posts did I cherry-pick?

You made those comments. Back them up!

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I note that you have not responded to my request for you to back up some accusatory comments you made to me.

I reiterate: You mention my obsession. How about telling me what that is???
And while you're at it, you can mention what my unsubstantiated posts are?
And also, what posts did I cherry-pick?

A non-response only means that you are blowing smoke and don't know what you're talking about. The ball is in your court.

[Michael G.]

Originally Posted by Dlbonivich

Termites are extremely prevalent in Florida. TV has not experienced many out breaks because the homes are relatively new. Homes in the historic section have experienced problems. In the old days builders could use napalm chemicals to treat the ground before building. That has changed. Much weaker chemicals now. Read about termites and you will find that Florida is the perfect breeding ground for them. 2 kinds of termites. Dry wood treated with tenting. No preventative for the and Subterranean which is what they are trying to prevent. Do what makes you feel comfortable with. I have lived in Florida for about 24 years and I will take the treatment and insurance. I had termites in my block home before. I do not want the damage or hassle.

Good read.
And if you ever seen termite infestation in the exterior walls of a house,
that would be the best lesson to get protection.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Good read.
And if you ever seen termite infestation in the exterior walls of a house,
that would be the best lesson to get protection.

Michael -- there is almost no excuse for someone to have a termite infestation in the exterior walls of a house. A homeowner would have to be blind to not have noticed something like that before it got to that kind of extreme.

[Brack123]

Check with Deans, they actually treat with the quarterly insect treatment. Massey wanted me to buy a very high priced “Treatment Program” Very satisfied with Deans.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

One other consideration, I would never purchase a house that did not have a record of continuous termite protection. I expect I am not alone. So, there may be some issues with selling your house if you don't have termite protection and insurance.

Here you go again, like a grumpy old man! I will refer again to your obsession that you will only buy a house that has ongoing termite protection. Buyers buying a resale will have a home inspection and a termite inspection is part of that. If getting a mortgage, lenders require a "clear" termite report.

Yes, you are probably mostly alone in your thinking. When an inspection company can provide a clean report regarding termites, there really are NO issues concerning the sale of a property.

Going a step further, if termites are found, it is an easy fix with treatment giving a buyer peace of mind because a guarantee is always given.

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by spinner1001

This UF information about termites in Florida may be somewhat helpful.
Termite Distribution - Fort Lauderdale Research and Education Center - University of Florida, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences - UF/IFAS

I doubt that anyone has reliable statistics about the number of termites by location. (It’s hard enough counting humans by location for the US Census.) I believe the best anyone can do by location is the kinds of termites, rather than counts.

They probably released some genetically modified termites that bred with the normal termites and now they can’t reproduce. They are doing that with mosquitoes!

[clossonjunk]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

You would never buy a house that did NOT have continuous termite protection? Absurd and ridiculous!

That is NOT an issue with anyone selling their house.

How many people do you know who have had an issue with termites?
Yeah. That's what I thought!

I agree with him. Been in FL for 50 years. Been in TV for 1.5 yrs. This is my 4th home that I have owned as an adult. So far, 2 of my 4 homes have had termites. Both homes were brand new when I bought and only several years old when termites swarmed in. We didn't have new furniture or cabinets to blame. They come up through the ground and into house under the siding, in window seals, etc. The third home was built in the 70's and was treated with chemicals that are now banned, but never had termites in the home....in the yard, it did tho. I expect this home will eventually have termites. Each house we sold and bought had major termite clauses in them. Mant people will not purchase a home in FL without a history of termite treatment because the repair of unseen damage is crazy expensive. The damage is usually not found until there is remodeling or future termites. A bond does not cover past damage. Many people I know have dealt with termites. It's more rare to see someone who hasn't.

Basically, termites in FL are like gators in FL. You can tell yourself that they aren't there because you don't see them, no one has seen one, yadda, yadda, but they are there. It's not if, it's when you get termites in FL....