[applesoffh]

Originally Posted by EnglishJW

This is from the October 30th (most recent) edition of the Recreation News in the section on Neighborhood Pools:

"The Recreation Department strives to make the pools safe for everyone's use and enjoyment. The neighborhood adult pools are intended for refreshing socialization and non-organized/scheduled activities. Regularly scheduled water exercise groups are encouraged to used the sports pools for this purpose. Please contact your nearest recreation center and we'll get you started."

Thank you for posting! I couldn't find my copy of the Recreation schedule for anything!

[tolife]

It was the neighbors understanding that the problem at Eisenhower was not the Advance Volleyball players. It seem that the exclusive group with the problems are a men team and a women's team formed with a group of friends and no other residents are allowed to play unless you are contacted by email exclusively. People were told to leave. The advance players must try out to play on the advance team. All other groups are formed without try outs or ratings. This group is just a group of friends. They would turn new residents away. They are not the top or best teams just friends using the pool for themselves only, which will change the villages policy on the use of a sport pool. So there is no reasons why our other pools policy should not be changed.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by tolife

It was the neighbors understanding that the problem at Eisenhower was not the Advance Volleyball players. It seem that the exclusive group with the problems are a men team and a women's team formed with a group of friends and no other residents are allowed to play unless you are contacted by email exclusively. People were told to leave. The advance players must try out to play on the advance team. All other groups are formed without try outs or ratings. This group is just a group of friends. They would turn new residents away. They are not the top or best teams just friends using the pool for themselves only, which will change the villages policy on the use of a sport pool. So there is no reasons why our other pools policy should not be changed.

Am I the only one who, when at a neighborhood pool and approached by somebody and "told to leave", would just chuckle, say "yeah, right" and then continue using the pool?!?

[Carla B]

Originally Posted by tolife

It was the neighbors understanding that the problem at Eisenhower was not the Advance Volleyball players. It seem that the exclusive group with the problems are a men team and a women's team formed with a group of friends and no other residents are allowed to play unless you are contacted by email exclusively. People were told to leave. The advance players must try out to play on the advance team. All other groups are formed without try outs or ratings. This group is just a group of friends. They would turn new residents away. They are not the top or best teams just friends using the pool for themselves only, which will change the villages policy on the use of a sport pool. So there is no reasons why our other pools policy should not be changed.

Now, I'm confused. I thought that we were discussing neighborhood pools, not Eisenhower, a sports pool. Or are there issues at both?

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by Halibut

Nice email to Mr. Rohan, Cyndy. Let's hope some clarification is forthcoming.

Even after hundreds of posts, I'm still not totally sure if the "rules" allow me to swim laps in my neighborhood pool, or if my wife can take her water weights there and exercise. What if she and I were there together from 10-11 on M/W/F? Does two people constitute a group?

The cliques who go to the neighborhood pool every day and bob around in their noodles chatting for hours are, I guess, using the facility "correctly". But their territoriality and rudeness bother me a lot more than an hour's worth of group water aerobics would.

don't even think about swimming laps in the neighborhood pool unless you're the only one there. I did it once when both seabreeze and Miona were closed and I'll never do it again. That's what sports pools are for, and it really ruffles feathers.

as for bringing dumbells and exercising on your own, I dont think anyone cares about that.

[tolife]

there seems to be issues at all pools. however, it appears there are two problem. some residents are setting their own rules and the villages is changed the rule without letting the residents have a voice in the change.

[CFrance]

Recently I sent Mr. Rohan of the Recreation Department an email asking for clarification of neighborhood pool rules vis-a-vis people holding aerobics classes. Below is my email with his responses, which I received this morning. His answers are bolded.

Dear Mr. Rohan,

There are a number of conflicting pieces of information being circulated about the use of neighborhood pools by people holding aerobics classes.

I have written to you twice about neighborhood pools being taken over by water aerobics classes before and received two confusing answers that didn't really answer the question. I would like to know if these aerobics classes are allowed to take up neighborhood pools, leaving no room for people to use the pools as their stated purpose. Water exercise is allowed as long as it is not impeding the use of the pool for others. Meaning all access needs to be made available. It cannot monopolize the pool or deter from others using it.

Some neighborhood pools have had signs posted on them to the effect that no exercise classes are allowed. Conflicting information comes from one exercise leader via email, stating that these signs will be taken down and the classes allowed. Another piece of conflicting information from Eisenhower rec center: "the supervisor Matt at Eisenhower Sports pool
(says) that residents will be able as of April 2015 to reserve a time slot for 6 months at a time for volleyball for friends or clubs without renting the pool. Manager states that pools will be allowed to have classes reserved." It is not clear whether he means the sports pool or the neighborhood pools. The signage is temporary and serves as a reminder and for educational/expectation awareness to pool users. We are trying to get new residents to understand the concept of the pools. Matt has been exploring programing as all staff does for their centers. This program is not going to occur.

Can you provide some clarification to all this. Because at the same time, it has been posted in the Rec News that the neighborhood pools are not to be used for exercise classes. And if there are to be exercise classes in these pools, will the participants be required to sign the same release form as other rec center exercisers sign every year? What are the legal ramifications to TV if someone is injured? If someone is leading an organized water exercise class that instructor is personally liable.

Thank you for any definitive answer.

[Jim 9922]

CFrance, nice job. Looks like most problems have been answered. Love the answer for the last one, that should scare the stuff out of the "private" instructors.

[pakirk]

I disagree with the comments about people using the pool for aerobics. First off, these people are your neighbors. I see people walking laps for exercise ;in our the time. It prevents people from swimming laps. I do not use the neighborhood pool for any organized activity so I am hesitant to comment on those who do. From what I have observed, it is usually done in the mornings when there are limited people at the pool. To say you don't use the pool but are upset or find it outrageous when you do not use the pool is just complaining for the sake of complaining. Of all the post complaining, I have seen very little where there was actually an incident noted where someone was force out of a pool.

[George Bieniaszek]

Village Belly Floppers and Pool Cannon Ballers unite!!! Time to put a plan in action to invade these pools and disrupt the aerobics!!!!

[Happydaz]

50 friendly, extroverted people exercising in the pool for one hour three times a week in the morning, or one unfriendly, introverted person swimming laps or walking from side to side in an almost empty pool. Let's see, three hours a week for aerobics for 50 people and a few other people can't work around those few hours? I am sure the water aerobics people would make room for others to use the pool. The problem is that these others want to also exercise in the pool by doing laps or walking side to see. They just want the whole pool to themselves. They don't like all the people and noise!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

50 friendly, extroverted people exercising in the pool for one hour three times a week in the morning, or one unfriendly, introverted person swimming laps or walking from side to side in an almost empty pool. Let's see, three hours a week for aerobics for 50 people and a few other people can't work around those few hours? I am sure the water aerobics people would make room for others to use the pool. The problem is that these others want to also exercise in the pool by doing laps or walking side to see. They just want the whole pool to themselves. They don't like all the people and noise!

If you go back and read the initial posts of both threads concerning the use of neighborhood pools for aerobics, you will see that people have complained about aerobics classes, indeed, taking up the whole pool and bullying others who want to use the pool for its intended and stated purpose. So the assumption that they would make room for everyone doesn't "hold water." The pools aren't even supposed to hold 50 people!

Let's see, three hours a week to exclude the neighborhood from using the pools as they are intended, when the sports pools provide all the aerobics and other water exercise you could want? Of course they don't want all the noise and the people. The neighborhood pools are supposed to be for relaxation, not exercise.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek

Village Belly Floppers and Pool Cannon Ballers unite!!! Time to put a plan in action to invade these pools and disrupt the aerobics!!!!

Ready to cannonball where needed.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by DonH57

Ready to cannonball where needed.

Photo op!

[VT2TV]

Originally Posted by CFrance

If you go back and read the initial posts of both threads concerning the use of neighborhood pools for aerobics, you will see that people have complained about aerobics classes, indeed, taking up the whole pool and bullying others who want to use the pool for its intended and stated purpose. So the assumption that they would make room for everyone doesn't "hold water." The pools aren't even supposed to hold 50 people!

Let's see, three hours a week to exclude the neighborhood from using the pools as they are intended, when the sports pools provide all the aerobics and other water exercise you could want? Of course they don't want all the noise and the people. The neighborhood pools are supposed to be for relaxation, not exercise.

I totally agree. You know, even before we bought our house, our sales agent drove us all around the area, and either explained all the rules for TV, or explained how we could find the rules. No one has any excuse for not knowing the rules and it has always been that the adult pools were for quiet swimming, and exercising is supposed to be done in the sports pools. That is the way it has always been. But then some people decided that they didn't want to go to the sports pools, it was much easier to just go to the adult pools, and since that was what some people wnted, they just decided to take it upon themselves to change the rules. It all goes back to feeling entitled, and thinking that some people are more important than others. I didn't make the rules-the Morse family or associates did, and NO ONE has the right to change them except them. People certainly are trying, but that doesn't make it right. Eventually it may change, but right now people just need to do what is right , or go through the proper channels, not just bully your way through. How would the people feel if there was something they loved such as relaxing beside the pool---or anything else---and others just took it upon themselves to take it away from them, when the people trying to change things were in the wrong??????