[jbdlfan]

Before we bought in TV we were considered "In area" Guest with a pass. We came into the pools many times without anyone checking our passes. (we had a resident with us)We go to our pool now and many times no one is there to check either. Doesn't seem that unlikely to me.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

Before we bought in TV we were considered "In area" Guest with a pass. We came into the pools many times without anyone checking our passes. (we had a resident with us)We go to our pool now and many times no one is there to check either. Doesn't seem that unlikely to me.

I believe that your parents lived here and you lived very close. Now you are a resident.

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I believe that your parents lived here and you lived very close. Now you are a resident.

That's my point, we weren't residents and still very rarely had our passes checked. Bad policy which leads to the abuses described earlier. To the point of our pools now, we have been to our "family pool" with no one there monitoring. We have always played by the rules but many don't and without proper oversight it will continue wall or no wall.

[Bogie Shooter]

Could it possibly be that non residents using a pool is really not a big isssue?
I personally have seen folks turned away from the Bridgeport pool because they did not have passes, they waited while one member of their party went home and picked up all their passes. So, it does happe that ID's are checked.

[Mr.Kris]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Could it possibly be that non residents using a pool is really not a big issue?

Probably doesn't matter that non-residents occasionally use the multi-modal paths or sneak into a rec center either.

I cannot find any evidence that the wall (now gone) or gate were put in place because of overcrowding.

But I whole heartedly agree that we must protect or borders to the north. Where will it end. First Stonecrest then Canada. Oh lord protect us from the loonies.

P.S. I feel I have the right to comment as a TV resident because I have put down my deposit and signed a rental agreement for April to December 2014.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Mr.Kris

Probably doesn't matter that non-residents occasionally use the multi-modal paths or sneak into a rec center either.

I cannot find any evidence that the wall (now gone) or gate were put in place because of overcrowding.

But I whole heartedly agree that we must protect or borders to the north. Where will it end. First Stonecrest then Canada. Oh lord protect us from the loonies.

P.S. I feel I have the right to comment as a TV resident because I have put down my deposit and signed a rental agreement for April to December 2014.

Some of our Canadian residents may take exception to this.

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Could it possibly be that non residents using a pool is really not a big isssue?
I personally have seen folks turned away from the Bridgeport pool because they did not have passes, they waited while one member of their party went home and picked up all their passes. So, it does happe that ID's are checked.

Sooooo, you are no ok with non-residents using OUR facilities?????
What's next, the multimodal paths?????

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

Sooooo, you are no ok with non-residents using OUR facilities?????
What's next, the multimodal paths?????

I don't understand your post.

And When we now go to Tall Trees pool, we are checked occasionally. At Odell family pool we were checked often.

I like that we are checked. It protects our amenities from the use of outsiders.

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I don't understand your post.

And When we now go to Tall Trees pool, we are checked occasionally. At Odell family pool we were checked often.

I like that we are checked. It protects our amenities from the use of outsiders.

I agree that it is good that we are checked. My point was to the post that maybe non residents using the pool was a non issue. I don't understand how it is an issue if people from "the outside" drive on our MM paths or drive over our bridge is bad, but using our pools is alright. If all this was such an issue, why not be sure to ALWAYS check IDs at ALL facilities.
In the meantime, we are outraged that there is abuse.

[graciegirl]

I'm not outraged.

[jbdlfan]

OK.......I'm glad?

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by barebones1191

America�s Friendliest City Just Became Unfriendly to its Neighbors! In a recent newspaper article regarding the �Berlin Wall� VHA President Gottschalk was quoted as saying �nonresidents had unfettered access, allowing them to travel in and out of our community and utilize our facilities paid for and maintained by Village residents.� I want to know what facilities he is talking about. I am unaware of any. If he is talking about the entertainment in the squares, nonresidents do help pay for those venues by spending their money in the Villages at restaurants, and other businesses. That can be the only thing he�s talking about. Walling off your neighbors will not stop your neighbors from visiting the Villages. It will only stop them from using their golf car to access the squares and the businesses. They can still use their automobiles to travel on public roads built with taxpayer dollars and adding to more congestion within the Villages. What a tradeoff is that? However, it could stop nonresidents from spending their money in the Villages and hurting all the businesses that need all the help they can get. Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.

When golf carts from other communities come into The Villages, they use the multi-modal paths that are on private property. So it might be a liability issue. Also, if allowed, they would be able to come and go as they please without having to stop at most gates. When non-residents (cars) stop at a gate, a camera records their license plate. This is part of the security system that we have in place.

So, in my opinion, I think it might have to do with security and liability. And I wouldn't expect The Villages to say that because they wouldn't want to give anyone any ideas.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

Sooooo, you are no ok with non-residents using OUR facilities?????
What's next, the multimodal paths?????

I am no OK with non residents using our facilities. Spot checking of pools probably accomplishes that.
Not next on multimodal paths, but I will not support paying someone to check every path user......................... for a Village ID.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

I agree that it is good that we are checked. My point was to the post that maybe non residents using the pool was a non issue. I don't understand how it is an issue if people from "the outside" drive on our MM paths or drive over our bridge is bad, but using our pools is alright. If all this was such an issue, why not be sure to ALWAYS check IDs at ALL facilities.
In the meantime, we are outraged that there is abuse.

What abuse?

[Mr.Kris]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Some of our Canadian residents may take exception to this.

My last name is Beaubien. A true Canadian, i.e. French, would not take offense. Ford is English isn't he? If a reader cannot follow this they are probably from the western provinces. I am originally from Minnesota. My great grandfather, Louie, swam across the frozen Boundary Waters in the 1800s to escape oppressive British rule. I'm not sure how you swim across frozen water, but I'm told it's true. In Minnesota we use ice skates.

Succession today, Succession tomorrow, Succession forever. Except where it is inconvenient of course.

If you think I make light of things you are right. Especially when I envision a gray haired old man (me) and a blue haired old lady (to be determined) crashing through a security gate making a mad dash for Katie Belles.

Life is short. I plan on dying with a smile on my face. Maybe a smirk. But I'm not going to get upset about an outsider accessing my multi-modal path. Besides, she may be cute. You never know.