[rsmurano]

TV isn’t perfect but pretty damn close compared to any other town. Talk to the police and they will tell you it’s pretty safe. The last cop I talked to he said the major issue is drunk golf cart drivers followed by domestic violence. How many drive by shootings have occurred in TV? How many meth labs have been raided inside TV?
As for somebody destroying your personal property, on purpose or by accident, no owner should just walk away. The offender should agree to fix the damage or suffer retaliation which could be being sued.

[ThirdOfFive]

So...what WERE the expectations when moving here? That the folks moving here were going to leave their baggage behind? That all of a sudden irascible old people were going to turn into kindly old grandmotherly and grandfatherly types? That rocking chairs, card games in the lanai and doily-knitting were going to predominate?

It doesn't work that way. People are who they were before moving here, and that is pretty much a cross-section of America. More money, maybe, but that's not necessarily a positive when discussing personality types. But there is another factor that wasn't seen, at least to this extent and in this concentration, before people moved here, and that is summed up in the saying "as people age, they become more like themselves". So as age advances the philanthropist is apt to want to contribute even more. The quick-to-anger types are apt to develop a hair trigger. The life-of-the-party type is apt to become even more outgoing. The lounge-lizard types are apt to become even more of a pain. The loner is apt to become even more withdrawn. And so on. And unfortunately, the bullies among us may give in to their urges even more so than before.

The reason is simple. As people age, mental processes deteriorate, and as they deteriorate we gradually lose control of our emotions and how we act upon them. Bottom line: the real person that we've kept hidden more or less successfully all our lives is progressively more apt to start showing through, and not always with good results. Not all of us, or even most of us, and not necessarily in a bad way. But it DOES happen, and when you couple that with things like booze, a rocky home life, chronic pain, as well as other factors--well, sometimes the result is going to be like happened in the case being discussed here. Put simply, people have less emotional control, at times with unfortunate and even deadly results.

Post #17 mentions two murder-suicides here since 2015 (in a town that at this time has a population of 150,000, more or less). I come from a town of 25,000 and I can recall more such incidents there in roughly the same time-period--plus other crimes, against persons and property, that rarely if ever happen here. I carried a pistol there virtually every time I went out the door. Here? Not even once--though I did get my permit upon moving here. Just haven't felt the need, and this latest incident didn't change that. The Villages is by far the safest place I've lived since leaving home at age 18.

If there is one gripe I have about TV (maybe Florida in general--I'm not familiar with other settings) it is the lack of services designed to assist people with the emotional problems attendant upon advancing age. They just don't seem to exist, at least not to the extent that they're obviously needed. Maybe to develop and advertise them would go against the "healthy active senior lifestyle" thing, but to NOT develop them, and then have to deal with stuff like this, is to my mind far worse.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

TV isn’t perfect but pretty damn close compared to any other town. Talk to the police and they will tell you it’s pretty safe. The last cop I talked to he said the major issue is drunk golf cart drivers followed by domestic violence. How many drive by shootings have occurred in TV? How many meth labs have been raided inside TV?
As for somebody destroying your personal property, on purpose or by accident, no owner should just walk away. The offender should agree to fix the damage or suffer retaliation which could be being sued.

Define perfect. The police do practically nothing as a whole in at least 2 of the 3 counties. They're more concerned with policing things that don't need to be policed rather than what they should be doing.

I won't disagree with the drunk golf cart, lord knows this is the largest collection of irresponsible I've ever seen. Meth is on the coasts of the state most predominately around here they'd blow up the house LOL.

Oh yes lets make the lawyers more money. How about "IF" this person had done damage... since the OP stated this guy jumped off the handle when in fact he was wrong.

Kool-aid or not (and there is a S***load of it around here), all I hear is how wonderful this and that is, the reality is it's engineered into the fabric. TV restaurant reviews... seriously? I don't think restaurant reviews by overly PC people with declining tastebuds is of any benefit, but it does feed the entitled being's ego. I don't think enough people look at the reality of the way things are set up.

oh before I forget, please the handful of you entitled people don't forget to tell me "if you don't like it then leave" because that is so laughable it cracks me up every time. (The message from the ''hidden" entitled people)

[djplong]

Originally Posted by star20166@yahoo.com

As this country and our culture degrades further you will see real violence enter our lives as have nots, criminals and illegal migrants come looking for some from the haves. We can't escape the politically induced crime wave that is eating the country alive forever. Two old timers engaged in mutual combat is not the kind of violence that endangers this community.

It would be nice if the statistics backed up your opinion. However, FBI stats show that illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than American-born citizens. There's a lot out there that goes counter to what people "believe" - like how you're more likely to die of a gunshot wound in Ohio (16.5 killed per 100,000) than New York City (5.5 per 100,000). Oh - and the Ohio number is ONLY gun murders - the New York City numbers are ALL murders (i.e. including stabbings, beatings, etc).

[Tobys Dad]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Been here for many years. The Kool-aid drank around here comes in a bottle titled self-entitlement. The arguments I've seen over parking spaces, golf balls, chairs in the squares, exercise equipment, etc. are so common that when I read this I was numb to the details. And, nowadays, I can't seem to have a restaurant meal without some table arguing. Usually the mine is better than yours scenario. Who cares what you own? Welcome to the Villages!

We have been here over 20 years. I have never witnessed an argument, fight or anything even close to a fight. Only arguments have been with umpires at softball. We are a "city" of nearly 150,000. Stuff happens. Crime and incident issues extremely low compared to the rest of America .

[I'm Popeye!]

Lexus, another Toyota with a slanted "L" option..

[bitsnkiblz]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

I doubt it. Best case scenario, if it went down the way it was reported, is he gets convicted of involuntary manslaughter. He'll do time.

Just remember, he’s currently out on bond.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

Define perfect. The police do practically nothing as a whole in at least 2 of the 3 counties. They're more concerned with policing things that don't need to be policed rather than what they should be doing. ...........

Just one question:

What is it that "doesn't need to be policed" and what "should they be doing"?
Who decides???? You????Me????

Ideal policing is to show up at the scene of a crime 30 seconds before it occurs, which is only possible in the movie "Minority Report"

Meanwhile, there are those, even on this site, that want the police to spend their time writing thousands of tickets for going 40 in a 35 zone or 21 mph in a golf cart. Oh, the horror, the horror. Should those people be deciding what the police "should be doing"? Or should they just hide under their beds?

The other extreme is anarchy, a la California and some of our larger cities.

Perhaps we should allow the professional law enforcement senior management to decide what policing activities to focus upon.

[JGibson]

The OP should immediately call their realtor and put their house on the market and get out of this very dangerous crime filled area. Do you need help packing? Geez.

[Marmaduke]

Originally Posted by djplong

I may not agree with the predominant politics around here but I do believe in the truth (especially when backed up with reliable statistics).

1) The Villages, crime wise, is WAY safer than the national average on all kinds of crime.

2) There are always bad apples in every barrel.

3) Ask any public-facing employee (anything from a clerk to a fast food cashier) who the most troublesome, most entitled, hardest to please people and they'll tell you that it's OUR generation (I'm 60). Too many of us were raised spoiled by The Greatest Generation (because they didn't want us reliving their horrors) and, while that's an easy accusation to make, it DOES tend to come true too often. Most of us aren't like that - but ask them who stands out in their minds and it's usually some entitled old person.

So I have no trouble in believing that there are a lot of low-level spats going on. Heck, seeing the arguments in the nursing home I worked at as a teenager right up to the one my mom was in starting last year - the evidence is there.

I don't believe it's entitled "Olde People" only.
We know that personality is set by age 30.
An individuals disposition at 30 is the same at 60, 70, 80...
Think about that for a minute. Older adults get a bad rap all of the time.

If and when folks spend a lot of time outside of their cohort, they see this to be very evident.

Sadly, the case in point would be the now deceased "gentleman" who did the "proper thing" and offered to exchange insurance info with the man who was a raging maniacal drunk, who thought he hit his treasured lexus. He wanted to fight.

The fighter, by the way didn't step up and admit anything, until the police came knocking on his door, due to ANOTHER Good Samaritan, our age, who helped the police I.D. the bad guy.

One man was a gentleman, who tried unsuccessfully to defend himself.

One man was not a gentleman, but rather a drunken, violent man who had his priorities askew and caused the DEATH of a gentleman, while his wife was witness.
There's a great poem titled,
"Children live what they learn."
Look it up.
My Mum and Dad were of the Greatest Generation and do not deserve to be disrespected, with such a generalized broad brush.

[Ele201]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

So...what WERE the expectations when moving here? That the folks moving here were going to leave their baggage behind? That all of a sudden irascible old people were going to turn into kindly old grandmotherly and grandfatherly types? That rocking chairs, card games in the lanai and doily-knitting were going to predominate?

It doesn't work that way. People are who they were before moving here, and that is pretty much a cross-section of America. More money, maybe, but that's not necessarily a positive when discussing personality types. But there is another factor that wasn't seen, at least to this extent and in this concentration, before people moved here, and that is summed up in the saying "as people age, they become more like themselves". So as age advances the philanthropist is apt to want to contribute even more. The quick-to-anger types are apt to develop a hair trigger. The life-of-the-party type is apt to become even more outgoing. The lounge-lizard types are apt to become even more of a pain. The loner is apt to become even more withdrawn. And so on. And unfortunately, the bullies among us may give in to their urges even more so than before.

The reason is simple. As people age, mental processes deteriorate, and as they deteriorate we gradually lose control of our emotions and how we act upon them. Bottom line: the real person that we've kept hidden more or less successfully all our lives is progressively more apt to start showing through, and not always with good results. Not all of us, or even most of us, and not necessarily in a bad way. But it DOES happen, and when you couple that with things like booze, a rocky home life, chronic pain, as well as other factors--well, sometimes the result is going to be like happened in the case being discussed here. Put simply, people have less emotional control, at times with unfortunate and even deadly results.

Post #17 mentions two murder-suicides here since 2015 (in a town that at this time has a population of 150,000, more or less). I come from a town of 25,000 and I can recall more such incidents there in roughly the same time-period--plus other crimes, against persons and property, that rarely if ever happen here. I carried a pistol there virtually every time I went out the door. Here? Not even once--though I did get my permit upon moving here. Just haven't felt the need, and this latest incident didn't change that. The Villages is by far the safest place I've lived since leaving home at age 18.

If there is one gripe I have about TV (maybe Florida in general--I'm not familiar with other settings) it is the lack of services designed to assist people with the emotional problems attendant upon advancing age. They just don't seem to exist, at least not to the extent that they're obviously needed. Maybe to develop and advertise them would go against the "healthy active senior lifestyle" thing, but to NOT develop them, and then have to deal with stuff like this, is to my mind far worse.

I usually don’t read longer posts, but I read yours and found it interesting and thought provoking. You’re right that people become more of who they truly are, as they age. In addition, I’m wondering what role dementia plays in bad behavior at TV. With people here in their later years of life, there has to be some dementia.

I’ve also read about more car crashes and golf cart crashes recently. Some of this is because people in their 80s and 90s with health issues are driving — and they shouldn’t. A woman 91 years old was recently sent to jail because she left the scene where her car crashed into two bicyclists, one of whom was severely injured.

[Mikee1]

Not Sure HALAL is going to help by making it all permissible?

Halal

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Originally Posted by Gpsma

Villager kills another Villager…never hapens in Americas fFriendliest place


Except i read the other forbidden other online news source.

Not a word here about a 75 year old punching n 85 year old in the jaw at Glenview CC becuse he thought he hit his lexus.

Poor 85 yer old is dead from a brain bleed.

You wont find these stories in the Sun. No one talks about the violence here.

Lets all drink the kool aid

[Burnie]

Originally Posted by Tobys Dad

We have been here over 20 years. I have never witnessed an argument, fight or anything even close to a fight. Only arguments have been with umpires at softball. We are a "city" of nearly 150,000. Stuff happens. Crime and incident issues extremely low compared to the rest of America .

Same here.

[deborahcme]

If you look at the online masthead of The Villages News, you'll see a tab labeled "Crime." There is no "Crime" tab for the Daily Sun. It doesn't take long to figure out that the Daily Sun is just that--your shot of daily sunshine with a liberal side dish of real-estate ads. The paper does not claim to be anything else. So, here's the thing. If this were a period any time before the Internet, this sunshiny narrow focus would be concerning. But we aren't limited to just one source for news. A quick glance at the newsstand in any Publix displays other print sources if the Internet is not your thing. Finally, all publications and media appear to have a lean or a slant. I guess I'd suggest to anyone who is unhappy with the Daily Sun's lack of harder hitting news to let them know about it.

[GATORBILL66]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Villager kills another Villager…never hapens in Americas fFriendliest place


Except i read the other forbidden other online news source.

Not a word here about a 75 year old punching n 85 year old in the jaw at Glenview CC becuse he thought he hit his lexus.

Poor 85 yer old is dead from a brain bleed.

You wont find these stories in the Sun. No one talks about the violence here.

Lets all drink the kool aid

I don't understand how the 75 year old is out on bond. He should never see the light of day again!