[asianthree]

Originally Posted by jrref

I don't know the answer to this question but I can say for sure A1 and Triangle Lightning protection, two of the companies installing system here in the Villages are always booked up many months out every year. The more strikes, resulting fires, and coverage in the news papers, the more people see the risk as real and the more get systems.

Truthfully, I didn’t expect an answer.

My thoughts are if we were looking at 20,000 to 30,000+ installations that answer would’ve popped up.
However I understand both companies are busy installing are booked up several months advance. Which also may make the customer uncomfortable waiting, or look at other avenues.
It doesn’t really answer how many they are doing per day per week per month it’s just a question still no answer.

However since you run a club about lightning strikes. What are the stats of a house struck next to one with protection? How many house from the 12 houses struck was there a home protected?

How does one know if your rod was struck saving your house?

Our homes on coastal areas, have systems installed, (only 11 out of 800) but no house in the community has been struck. Even though there are great lightning storms as frequently as FL

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I missed the part in the Constitution where it guaranteed my right to install lightning rods.

I haven't seen any consternation about others who may elect a LPS but I have seen much criticism of those who elect against installing a LPS.

If rain is in the forecast:
- Will it rain at all?
- Will it rain at my house?
- If it rains at my house, will there be a puddle?
- If there is a puddle, will it be in my path?
- If it is in my path, will I not see it and step in it?
- If I step in it, will it ruin my shoes?

If all those are "yes" then I will be sorry I didn't wear the boots. However, a very large percentage of the time one of those will be "no" and the boots will not be needed.

I don't recall anyone criticizing the choice to wear boots.
Those wearing boots have criticized pull-on shoe covers as not boot-like enough.
Those wearing boots have shown the same ruined pair of shoes over and over again.

This area has a lot of puddles
There is an increased chance that your shoes will get wet
All the shoes that get wet will need to be dried
A few of the shoes that get wet will be ruined
If your shoes get ruined you'll wish you wore boots

I feel for you, I can see you are struggling..

If one isn't aware that the Constitution allows one the freedom to choose and live one's life as one sees fit, as long as one doesn't intrude on the rights of others, one now knows. If one hasn't witnessed the railing against the installation of an LPS in this thread, one may want to reread all posts considering that subject. And if the simplicity of wearing boots throws one off, there is no way they can handle such a thought of installing a LPS. It appears to me that some people don't want a LPS, which is fine, but are jealous of those who decide to take that extra step. Gee, another lightning strike in The Villages this week. Isn't lightning roulette fun?

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by asianthree

After the hurricane damage we had, adjuster was at our house in 3 days. Check in hand on day 19. Guessing it’s either current knowledge of insurance policy, or a good adjuster

You had a very good adjuster and company!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Our homes on coastal areas, have systems installed, (only 11 out of 800) but no house in the community has been struck. Even though there are great lightning storms as frequently as FL

And that is lightning roulette, if the coastal areas of which you speak are in Florida. The LPS is for those who want the extra protection against a direct hit. I'm sure there are many people in Florida, who have lived all their lives here, and have never had their home struck by lightning. But I'm also sure their are Floridians here who had the extra protection of LPS and it saved their home. It comes down to whatever people decide they will be comfortable with in the end.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I sure would like to see some data supporting that statement.

I am personally aware of three strikes that did NOT start fires.
(one hit my house while I was in the room, another left marks on the floor where my wife was standing, and the third required a lot of work convincing the insurance company that lightning does strike in central WA state)

Hmmm, home struck by lightning three times and still not convinced some choosing LPS are making a sensible choice..

[jrref]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Part 1 says "if your house has the highest ground charge during optimal conditions, your house will be the one the lightning will be attracted to most."
Part 2 says "these things that stick up higher than the peak of your house, making your house the highest ground charge, will not attract the lightning."

How is this so?

Because there are multiple things that make any part if your home have the highest charge and height is only one part. A common misconception is the highest point of the home is the best target. While mostly true, it also has to have the highest postitive charge during a storm as well. This is why a home may get hit although there are high trees around it.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Truthfully, I didn’t expect an answer.

My thoughts are if we were looking at 20,000 to 30,000+ installations that answer would’ve popped up.
However I understand both companies are busy installing are booked up several months advance. Which also may make the customer uncomfortable waiting, or look at other avenues.
It doesn’t really answer how many they are doing per day per week per month it’s just a question still no answer.

However since you run a club about lightning strikes. What are the stats of a house struck next to one with protection? How many house from the 12 houses struck was there a home protected?

How does one know if your rod was struck saving your house?

Our homes on coastal areas, have systems installed, (only 11 out of 800) but no house in the community has been struck. Even though there are great lightning storms as frequently as FL

My guess is these companies install several systems per day.

Out of the 11 homes struck and had fires in the past 12 months, none had a lightning protection system.

Many of the homes hit had neighbors with an LPS. Some across the street and some next door.

We do know of 17 homes that did get struck by lightning and did have a LPS sustained minimal or no damage and none had a fire.

If you have an LPS and your home is hit you would have to either witness the strike or hear the incredibly loud bang. This is why we don't get many reports that fall into this category.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Hmmm, home struck by lightning three times and still not convinced some choosing LPS are making a sensible choice..

Confirmation bias.

I didn't write that my home was struck by lightning three times, I wrote that I was personally aware of three lightning strikes that did not start fires. Three separate homes, only one owned by me, two states, and several years apart.

It is the fact that none of these three caused fires or serious damage to the home that drives me to question the statistics and fear being pushed by those who appear to have the phone numbers for the local LPS installers memorized.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Confirmation bias.

I didn't write that my home was struck by lightning three times, I wrote that I was personally aware of three lightning strikes that did not start fires. Three separate homes, only one owned by me, two states, and several years apart.

It is the fact that none of these three caused fires or serious damage to the home that drives me to question the statistics and fear being pushed by those who appear to have the phone numbers for the local LPS installers memorized.

Was one of your homes struck in Florida or Texas?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I feel for you, I can see you are struggling..

If one isn't aware that the Constitution allows one the freedom to choose and live one's life as one sees fit, as long as one doesn't intrude on the rights of others, one now knows.

We're going to have to agree to disagree about the Constiitutionally-guaranteed right to a LPS but that's an issue for a different thread.

If one hasn't witnessed the railing against the installation of an LPS in this thread, one may want to reread all posts considering that subject.

Provide just two posts from this thread that show anyone "railing against the installation of an LPS. Any two.

And if the simplicity of wearing boots throws one off, there is no way they can handle such a thought of installing a LPS. It appears to me that some people don't want a LPS, which is fine, but are jealous of those who decide to take that extra step. Gee, another lightning strike in The Villages this week. Isn't lightning roulette fun?

... or just one post that even hints at jealousy.

[Golfshopguy]

Lightning strikes have not increased! The change is, the number of targets! The strikes used to hit empty acreage.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jrref

Was one of your homes struck in Florida or Texas?

No, the one home of mine that was struck was in MD. The second home I mentioned, which was not mine, was also in MD. The third was, as I wrote, in WA state.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by Aces4

People aren't stupid, they can see by the posts. If one is not interested at all to install LPS, why would they continue to post on this thread as to why LPS shouldn't be installed? Common sense would indicate they should move on to other threads which interest them.

I always wanted to say that.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

People aren't stupid, they can see by the posts. If one is not interested at all to install LPS, why would they continue to post on this thread as to why LPS shouldn't be installed? Common sense would indicate they should move on to other threads which interest them.

Originally Posted by jrref

I always wanted to say that.

So you can't point to even two posts.

Assuming you are referring to me, I have no desire to convince anyone of anything. I don't have a LPS at the moment but I might by the end of the year. I have NEVER stated, directly or indirectly, that a LPS shouldn't be installed.

What I HAVE stated is the misinformation, bad statistics, and scary pictures feel like a hard push to increase sales. I don't know if that is the intent and I have written that I would give the benefit of the doubt, but that is the way it feels.

What I am particularly interested in is challenging this misinformation and bad statistics. Everyone should decide for themselves whether they want a LPS but they should make that decision based on good data, not scary pictures.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Confirmation bias.

I didn't write that my home was struck by lightning three times, I wrote that I was personally aware of three lightning strikes that did not start fires. Three separate homes, only one owned by me, two states, and several years apart.

It is the fact that none of these three caused fires or serious damage to the home that drives me to question the statistics and fear being pushed by those who appear to have the phone numbers for the local LPS installers memorized.

That's even worse, odds of being struck by lightning don't look good in this case scenario.