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akerwin1909 05-17-2021 06:28 AM

Yep, I was here 18 days and didn’t know that others didn’t know how to drive in the roundabout. I was hit on right side-$6k in damages that my insurance had to pay. Then the woman had the nerve to say it was my fault. Incredible...

Cassieb 05-17-2021 06:28 AM

The driver in the left lane DID NOT have the right of way!!

akerwin1909 05-17-2021 06:29 AM

Yep, I was here 18 days and didn’t know that others didn’t know how to drive in the roundabout. I was hit on right side-$6k in damages that my insurance had to pay. Then the woman had the nerve to say it was my fault. She said I pulled in front of her! Well yeah I did because I had the right of way. Incredible...

Bill14564 05-17-2021 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1945807)
And this is why if they simply made them 1 lane, this issue goes away.

As OBB said up above, if the white SUV had entered at the 2nd entrance instead of the cammer entrance, they could theoretically be in exactly the same place, at exactly the same time, the only difference is that they entered in a different spot.
In that particular case, they'd be perfectly fine with doing exactly what they did as far as the direction, they still probably failed to yield.

Someone is supposed to yield, and the only way to make the yield crash proof is to...NEVER ENTER a RB with traffic. I.E. then what's the point of having two lanes?

This could not happen if the white SUV yielded to traffic already in the circle before entering at the 2nd entrance.

golfing eagles 05-17-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassieb (Post 1945812)
The driver in the left lane DID NOT have the right of way!!

Yes, he did!

The driver in the left lane was correctly navigating the RB, the driver in the right lane was 100% WRONG for trying to go 270 in the outer lane. Clearly, you need to review the pamphlet on RBs they give to every newbie.

larrycrilley@gmail.com 05-17-2021 06:33 AM

I make it a point to never have another vehicle next to me in a traffic circle. This greatly reduces the chance of colliding with an errant driver. This leaves me an ‘out’ and/or a chance to avoid collision. One can ever tell what other vehicles will be doing.

GOLFER54 05-17-2021 06:33 AM

I always use signals when I cut in front of cars 😀

Kathryn Putt 05-17-2021 06:36 AM

Go back to when learning how to drive: what does the solid line mean and what does the dotted line mean?!?!

golfing eagles 05-17-2021 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathryn Putt (Post 1945825)
Go back to when learning how to drive: what does the solid line mean and what does the dotted line mean?!?!

Hopefully that was a rhetorical question. Hopefully. But then again, the thread is discussing RB driving in TV, so all bets are off:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

donfey 05-17-2021 06:39 AM

Same as a "regular" intersection.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1945438)
What you see here happens constantly. When will people finally learn the correct way in a roundabout?

Another Idiot Driver In The Villages - YouTube

Some people think the outside lane is "safest." The diagram in the video, and shown by another poster, is perfect, but it's NOT law. The driver on the outside has "a right" to do what he/she did, but it's neither the safest nor the smartest. Best rules: never be next to another vehicle in the circle, and use your signals.

stanley 05-17-2021 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1945831)
Some people think the outside lane is "safest." The diagram in the video, and shown by another poster, is perfect, but it's NOT law. The driver on the outside has "a right" to do what he/she did, but it's neither the safest nor the smartest. Best rules: never be next to another vehicle in the circle, and use your signals.

Maybe not "illegal" but certainly reckless and could be cited for such by Johnny Law

ChicagoNative 05-17-2021 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathryn Putt (Post 1945825)
Go back to when learning how to drive: what does the solid line mean and what does the dotted line mean?!?!

Exactly!

JMintzer 05-17-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rjsantos592 (Post 1945770)
Sounds to me like this was staged. How could you possibly know that this "white" car was going to cut in front of you at that distance?

Really?

The driver had his dash-cam on (as many drivers do whenever they're driving)...

He did a "voice over" about what happened AFTER THE INCIDENT...

No one knew "that this white car was going to cut in front of you"...

JMintzer 05-17-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1945835)
Maybe not "illegal" but certainly reckless and could be cited for such by Johnny Law

No, it's illegal... Get in an accident and you'll be the one cited...

NotGolfer 05-17-2021 06:50 AM

Then there are those who say, "up north-where we lived they did it a different way!" This isn't "where you're from". Laws and rules may be different. People bring their habits with them and sometimes have to re-learn the hard way. I've heard some, who said "up north" they never stopped at stop signs or used their signals---they just gunned it and went like heck. IF everyone did the circles like the OP indicated just think---we'd not have this discussion. BTW....notice when they all approached the circle--there was already a car in it and THAT car nearly came to a stop. That too is a no-no!!

golfing eagles 05-17-2021 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1945831)
Some people think the outside lane is "safest." The diagram in the video, and shown by another poster, is perfect, but it's NOT law. The driver on the outside has "a right" to do what he/she did, but it's neither the safest nor the smartest. Best rules: never be next to another vehicle in the circle, and use your signals.

OK, from the Florida DMV for the written exam:

Driving Through A Multi-lane Roundabout
Driving through a multi-lane roundabout is trickier than driving through a single-lane roundabout since you have to select the right lane depending on the exit you plan to take. Most two-lane roundabouts allow traffic in the right lane to turn right and go straight through the roundabout, while traffic in the left lane must go straight, turn left or return in the direction it came from. Most of the multi-lane roundabouts will have lane use control signs that will help you choose the right lane.

1

Approaching the roundabout.
Slow down and select the appropriate lane, depending on the exit you are planning to take. You must select the lane in advance while it is still allowed by pavement markings. Yield to any pedestrians crossing the street.

2

Yield to traffic already on the roundabout,
wait for a gap and enter it. You must enter the correct lane.

3

Signal your intent to exit the roundabout
as soon as you pass the street before your exit. If you are driving in the left lane, be aware of other vehicles that may be on your right.

4

Yield to any pedestrians that may be crossing the street.
Yeild to pedestrians and exit the intersection.


Roundabout Traffic Rules For Cyclists
In most cases, bicyclists should dismount and walk their bicycles across the pedestrian crosswalk just like any other pedestrian. This is a safer option that should be chosen by most cyclists.

Roundabouts for Cyclists
Experienced cyclists may choose to cycle through the roundabout, obeying traffic rules just like any driver. You must yield to pedestrians and vehicles that are already on the roundabout. Ride in the middle of the lane so drivers will not be tempted to pass you. Avoid driving through multi-lane roundabouts, drivers traveling through the roundabout may not see you in their mirrors.

I've included the last part for all our cyclists who think it is OK to blow through the yield signs in a pack of 20.

mike234 05-17-2021 06:51 AM

if you think is ever going to end, you are wrong. these people will run you over, and not even care, or remember the next day.
if you don't drive defensively, get ready for a loaner car.

Petersweeney 05-17-2021 06:52 AM

Wow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1945438)
What you see here happens constantly. When will people finally learn the correct way in a roundabout?

Another Idiot Driver In The Villages - YouTube

I wonder if someone followed you around all day and filmed
You doing something stupid then posted it on the internet..... you would call that guy a big jerk ...

debb3c 05-17-2021 06:59 AM

There’s YouTube videos that show how to drive around them, I make sure I don’t drive beside anyone, or that I can see their rear end.

debb3c 05-17-2021 07:01 AM

I agree, no one should call anyone names, it’s hurtful and definitely not helpful. The real reason someone would put someone down is to try to make themselves look taller. It doesn’t work

Pinball wizard 05-17-2021 07:03 AM

I found this video quite good.

Navigating a 2 lane roundabout

charmed59 05-17-2021 07:06 AM

The easiest way to think about is to imagine taking the circle median away. You now have a four way intersection with two lanes. When entering the intersection the left lane is for turning left, going straight, or making a U turn. The right lane is for turning right or going straight.

The thing that amazes me the most is you will see cars going 3 exits around in the outside lane all the time. Yet most of the time, just like in the video, people shake their heads and drive on with out a scratch. Despite folks not understanding the circles we have very few accidents.

markandjane 05-17-2021 07:10 AM

Try again
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadywood (Post 1945488)
Which idiot are you complaining about?

If you look at the arrows on the road, you will see that the right lane is supposed to continue straight (take the exit), while the inner lane has the option of continuing around or exiting. The idiot in the left lane chose to exit, while the outer lane idiot ignored the arrow and continued around the circle. However, I did notice that the idiot in the left lane failed to signal his intent.

I think the circles are designed to work that way to prevent idiots from changing lanes in the circle. Notice the solid lane dividers? That means you're supposed to stay in your lane. How would anyone in the left lane ever get out of the circle if he can't change lanes or cross the outer lane to exit? Notice the dashed lane divider, allowing the left lane to exit the circle? But maybe you were complaining about the outer lane guy?

My understanding is that the outer lane is for taking the first exit -- turning right immediately. At least that's what the Villages sales lady told me when I asked her how the traffic circles are supposed to work.

Mmm, I think you need to look at the video again before you start throwing insults. The white car can go right or straight, but not left. The car with the camera can go left or go straight, and he went straight. He's not required to signal to go straight...not sure what your eyes were looking at.

mmorrison123 05-17-2021 07:22 AM

Nice graphic from the pamphlet. One thing that you can see is that none of the routes through the circle cross any solid or dashed lane markers (except for the ones to enter the circle. Is so simple. Don’t cross solid lines. If you must cross a dashed line you must give right it way to any vehicles already in the lane on the other side of the dashed line. It’s no different in a circle than anywhere else on the road.

Maxsan 05-17-2021 07:30 AM

All good except Moyer loop and penellis at Morris. Getting off at Moyer loop (by fire station) is tricky, on,y one exit road, two lanes!

chuckandbernice 05-17-2021 07:32 AM

White lines
 
You must always be aware of what the painted lines on the road are telling you just as you would at traffic lights as to which lane to take. Sometimes there are no signs to warn you in advance. Of course sometimes the lines are wrong such as the arrows near St Timothy's on Paige Place that would have you turn left into the golf course fairway.

Tyrone Shoelaces 05-17-2021 07:39 AM

Cut and Paste.
If you intend to travel through the roundabout and continue straight ahead, it can be appropriate to use either lane to enter and travel through the roundabout. The only concern in this case is that you should make sure you stay in the same lane throughout and also be sure to use your turn signal when you are ready to exit. If you are exiting from the inside lane, be careful that there isn’t a vehicle in the outside lane that intends to keep circling. Not everyone is aware of this guideline, so be careful in these situations.

OhioBuckeye 05-17-2021 07:44 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
You know no matter what the rules of the road is or in this case rules of the roundabout is, people make up their own rules as they go. It’s a mess when some roundabout sometimes have 10 to 15 cars going around in roundabouts at once. No matter who’s fault it is they’re going to say it’s the other guys fault. I got my way of doing it & it works for me. This has always been a issue, just be careful. It never hurts or takes 10 sec. to keep going around the roundabout until your senior moment passes. Don’t hurry be safe!

BlackhawksFan 05-17-2021 07:51 AM

How to drive the circle. Watch for the double lane circle at the end.

How to Drive in a Traffic Circle - Aceable 360 - YouTube

Bogie Shooter 05-17-2021 07:54 AM

Only 109 more posts for a new record on a roundabout thread.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ht=roundabouts 178 posts

Joe C. 05-17-2021 07:55 AM

People will always argue about who is right or what is correct. Nobody will ever be happy.
But you can't argue this: When you get behind the steering wheel, you should be knowledgeable about driving.

AND ...... I believe that anyone over 65 (me included), should take and pass a physical road test every year when they re-register their vehicle.

golfing eagles 05-17-2021 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1945902)
You know no matter what the rules of the road is or in this case rules of the roundabout is, people make up their own rules as they go. It’s a mess when some roundabout sometimes have 10 to 15 cars going around in roundabouts at once. No matter who’s fault it is they’re going to say it’s the other guys fault. I got my way of doing it & it works for me. This has always been a issue, just be careful. It never hurts or takes 10 sec. to keep going around the roundabout until your senior moment passes. Don’t hurry be safe!

Wow, I didn't realize YOU get to make up YOUR own way of navigating a RB!. Just wondering how YOUR way works out for everybody else?

Topspinmo 05-17-2021 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1945669)
hey deal with it, in Boston we never used a turn signal...why would we ever wanna give the enemy any information on what we're planning to do???

It's tough world out there...drive defensively and expect the unexpected

News flash nobody else in country does either. So, Bostonite’s aren’t special. :)

Topspinmo 05-17-2021 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1945916)
People will always argue about who is right or what is correct. Nobody will ever be happy.
But you can't argue this: When you get behind the steering wheel, you should be knowledgeable about driving.

AND ...... I believe that anyone over 65 (me included), should take and pass a physical road test every year when they re-register their vehicle.

Disagree, it everybody or nobody testing every year.

Topspinmo 05-17-2021 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1945902)
You know no matter what the rules of the road is or in this case rules of the roundabout is, people make up their own rules as they go. It’s a mess when some roundabout sometimes have 10 to 15 cars going around in roundabouts at once. No matter who’s fault it is they’re going to say it’s the other guys fault. I got my way of doing it & it works for me. This has always been a issue, just be careful. It never hurts or takes 10 sec. to keep going around the roundabout until your senior moment passes. Don’t hurry be safe!

But, if you get into accident it’s law enforcement that has the last say. So, it’s better to know the rules.

Topspinmo 05-17-2021 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1945914)
Only 109 more posts for a new record on a roundabout thread.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ht=roundabouts 178 posts


I’ll add to that, if it makes you happy:)

Topspinmo 05-17-2021 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1945831)
Some people think the outside lane is "safest." The diagram in the video, and shown by another poster, is perfect, but it's NOT law. The driver on the outside has "a right" to do what he/she did, but it's neither the safest nor the smartest. Best rules: never be next to another vehicle in the circle, and use your signals.

So you saying traffic laws when navigating a roundabout are wrong. It’s only unsafe when don’t follow the signs and law.

Topspinmo 05-17-2021 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathryn Putt (Post 1945825)
Go back to when learning how to drive: what does the solid line mean and what does the dotted line mean?!?!

Follow signs and rule of roundabout, cause for most of there was no roundabout’s when we learned how to drive.

airstreamingypsy 05-17-2021 08:28 AM

To me, the car that's a whisker ahead, may turn in front of me. It may not supposed to, but I expect they might....... it's worked for me so far.

Lottoguy 05-17-2021 08:45 AM

You are NOT supposed to change lanes in the roundabout. That is why you get into the correct lane before you enter it. There is a SIGN telling you the correct lane to be in.


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