[FishnFool]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

The you either don't read the paper or just don't understand. Clearly they are always adding pickleball court and executive courses.

There is not any formal or informal plan for any of those additional amenities north of 466, which is where the VLS has requested a change in zoning to construct the apartments. Folks are anticipating an increased pressure on the current amenities in that area if such re-zoning were to be approved. I live in this area. While I would welcome additional amenities in our area, it's not unreasonable to request to know where they will be and how much they could cost us.

This is why folks are asking questions of the officials who would vote on this issue. An added complexity to this area north of 466 is that it spans 3 counties, but since these Villages are next door to each other and interact with our shared VCCDD amenities, what happens in one Village/county can and does impact all of our LifeStyles north of 466.

Some people wish to be active in what happens to their/our community, others don't. But I hope we can all agree that we wish to continue the philosophy of "It's a beautiful day in the Villages!".

[tophcfa]

[QUOTE=Jayhawk;1825035]

Originally Posted by Laker14

The you either don't read the paper or just don't understand. Clearly they are always adding pickleball court and executive courses.

Really, tell me when they added the last executive course north of 466? And how about the last time they added to one of the terribly overcrowded sports pools north of 466? Cant wait for this answer!

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by FishnFool

There is not any formal or informal plan for any of those additional amenities north of 466, which is where the VLS has requested a change in zoning to construct the apartments. Folks are anticipating an increased pressure on the current amenities in that area if such re-zoning were to be approved. I live in this area. While I would welcome additional amenities in our area, it's not unreasonable to request to know where they will be and how much they could cost us.

This is why folks are asking questions of the officials who would vote on this issue. An added complexity to this area north of 466 is that it spans 3 counties, but since these Villages are next door to each other and interact with our shared VCCDD amenities, what happens in one Village/county can and does impact all of our LifeStyles north of 466.

Some people wish to be active in what happens to their/our community, others don't. But I hope we can all agree that we wish to continue the philosophy of "It's a beautiful day in the Villages!".

I guess you missed it when someone posted the plan which CLEARLY mentioned a new resort pool, bocce, shuffleboard and cornhole courts. NORTH OF 466. All available to ALL residents and visitors.

But hey, no need to quibble over facts, right?

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Really, tell me when they added the last executive course north of 466? And how about the last time they added to one of the terribly overcrowded sports pools north of 466? Cant wait for this answer!

See post #138. Now I'm getting worn out having to tell you where everything is. Start looking it up for yourself and please, try to have a positive day.

By the way, we don't need additional executive courses north of 466. There are always openings there while south of 466 are full nearly every day.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

See post #138. Now I'm getting worn out having to tell you where everything is. Start looking it up for yourself and please, try to have a positive day.

By the way, we don't need additional executive courses north of 466. There are always openings there while south of 466 are full nearly every day.

Even though I already knew the answer to my question you answered it anyways, there are no new sports pools or executive courses north of 466. You don’t need to tell me where things are, I already know, and I also know how difficult it can be to get t times at the executives. And every day is a positive day : )

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

I guess you missed it when someone posted the plan which CLEARLY mentioned a new resort pool, bocce, shuffleboard and cornhole courts. NORTH OF 466. All available to ALL residents and visitors.

But hey, no need to quibble over facts, right?

Those are NOT facts. The developer has not committed to anything including the enticements mentioned above. Even if they actually do include these things there will be at least 500 new residents in the apartments trying to use them.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by npwalters

Those are NOT facts. The developer has not committed to anything including the enticements mentioned above. Even if they actually do include these things there will be at least 500 new residents in the apartments trying to use them.

Where does the 500 number come from? Is it this how many people are going to occupy the apartment building where Hacienda Hills Country club used to be? Is it 500 units in that building? Does anyone know how many units are in the Lofts at Brownwood? Are they all occupied by two people or are half occupied by one or like us do they have three?

Does the 500 number mean actual people? Think how many people living around a public pool in The Villages and think about how many use the pool? Pools are more crowded in high season on fair days all through out The Villages. All through out Florida.

Have never seen a crowd at Bocce, Cornhole or horseshoes anywhere in The Villages.

I hope that none of the things you worry about never happen. For you and for all of us. I have had in my life just reasons to be pessimistic. I don't think I am an unreasonable Pollyanna. I just think this will absorb nicely and do well.

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Where does the 500 number come from? Is it this how many people are going to occupy the apartment building where Hacienda Hills Country club used to be? Is it 500 units in that building? Does anyone know how many units are in the Lofts at Brownwood? Are they all occupied by two people or are half occupied by one or like us do they have three?

Does the 500 number mean actual people? Think how many people living around a public pool in The Villages and think about how many use the pool? Pools are more crowded in high season on fair days all through out The Villages. All through out Florida.

Have never seen a crowd at Bocce, Cornhole or horseshoes anywhere in The Villages.

I hope that none of the things you worry about never happen. For you and for all of us. I have had in my life just reasons to be pessimistic. I don't think I am an unreasonable Pollyanna. I just think this will absorb nicely and do well.

The 500 is an estimate of people. That is, of course, what matters when talking about who uses amenities. That is a conservative number based on up to 280 new apartments.

I too have never seen a crowd around Bocce, Cornhole or horseshoes. Doubt we ever will. Now, crowds at the pickleball courts, tennis, softball, or golf in the high season is another matter. Those are always crowded in the Spanish Springs area in the high season.

"I hope that none of the things you worry about never happen" Me too.

[FishnFool]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

I guess you missed it when someone posted the plan which CLEARLY mentioned a new resort pool, bocce, shuffleboard and cornhole courts. NORTH OF 466. All available to ALL residents and visitors.

But hey, no need to quibble over facts, right?

I am aware of the wording in the amended amenity rights " If the amenity rights are utilized in this manner, VLS shall construct, at a minimum, a resort-style pool, sport and activity courts, walking paths and open spaces – all of which shall be accessible to residents and guests. "

I'm sorry but I've reread this whole thread and can't find anything from the VLS that they have committed to where any of those things will be built and details like what the specific "activity courts" would be?

They could build apartments on the HH site but the amenities else where couldn't they? I'm not saying they would do that but our elected officials should be able to answer some of these questions for residents before saying Yes to rezoning. It wasn't an accident that no one from VLS was at the AAC meeting to answer questions!

[Laker14]

[QUOTE=tophcfa;1833962]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

Really, tell me when they added the last executive course north of 466? And how about the last time they added to one of the terribly overcrowded sports pools north of 466? Cant wait for this answer!

tophcfa, I did not post that as quoted. Jayhawk did. I don't know why the board shows that as my quote.