A result of money being siphoned off to private, religious and underperforming charter schools.......................
and not to forget reduction of state funding being diverted to certain governers private projects.

:agree: I think the Mayor of Wildwood, overplayed his hand. I agree his posturing may cost Wildwood dearly. If taxes would have been 2K per home, Wildwood would lose 1.6 million per year, not to mention all of the jobs that would have been created.

The developer would have built something far better, than Wildwood would have. IMHO

Don't confuse them with the facts Bogie.....the lottery was voted in as a means of enhancing public ed. The legislature took the lottery money and reduced educations share from the general fund.....

A big yes to this post. Typical greed drove this mayor to go for gold, and now may have lost both silver and bronze.

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Aren't those taxes paid to Sumter County, and then the county disperses the funds?

If the residents of Wildwood had any input, they probably would prefer a 24 hour Super Wal-Mart on that corner.

I'm not that convinced that wildwood has lost all that much. They already get a nice slice of the pie from Pinellas and the houses that are actually in wildwood. For any added income (most of which will go to the county and be disbursed as it sees fit), wildwood would basically lose in any election in which the town residents want one thing and TV residents want another. That may be more important in the long run. Sooner or later, someone will develop that land, who remains to be seen.

Most people are forgetting that the commercial development known as Trailwinds Village was already approved by Wildwood. Trailwinds Village website If The Villages of Wildwood had come to fruition, Trailwinds would have sold about 50 acres (the northern part) of the 150 total to The Villages. As it is now, it's completely feasible that Trailwinds will resume steps to develop all 150 acres.

Someday....maybe!

No, property taxes on homes within the Incorporated City of Wildwood go to the city....Sumter County levies additional taxes on top of that!!

If you look at the conceptual plan already approved and in place with the proper zoning, there is actually a "big box retail store" near that corner.

I do not know much about schools in China, but I have a real problem with the statement that schools in India are much better than in the US. Having lived in India for almost 5 years, I was able to learn about the public schools. Many are not much more than day care centers. Some do not even have books available.

Even the working poor struggle mightily to save up the tuition to send their children to private schools.

Yes, there is a need for improvements in parts of the US education system, but I strongly recommend against using India's schools systems as a model.

Am disappointed that there won't be 800 more homes and new rec center as well as golf courses built. For those who want Costco or Trader Joe's built near our area, big business think of traffic before making decisions. Too bad.

The previous project (Trailwinds?) seemed to be a good balance, this was before we moved here, so I am not very familiar with the details. It seemed to balance commercial with homes, but when I looked at the previously posted link, I did not notice golf cart access. I really think this is an item that needs to be addressed in any plan for this parcel.

But as mentioned before we need to be careful what we wish for, we might get it!

You will not see golf cart access to Trailwinds from TV because access from TV invites access from outside TV.. The developer has established that access for golf carts from outside TV is not desired. It was an early sticking point in the Fruitland Park negotiations that ended with no access from Fruitland Park. The infamous wall was another attempt to block outside access via golf cart, now replaced by a gate requiring a Villages gate pass.

Ah, yes you are correct, I was coming from having the developer essentially do the Trailwinds project, or something similar, so it was under their control, but that gets back to the golf cart issue. Dose not matter to me as I use a car to get around.

Please note that the proposed 800 home development The Villages wished to build on part of this now vacant land would also have severe golf cart access problems (or perhaps I should say golf cart exit problems). Those purchasing homes in this area would be essentially completely isolated from other areas of The Villages, at least as far as golf cart travel is concerned. The is no provision for cart crossing across 466A to Pinellas shopping, doctors offices, golf corses, etc. There is no provision for access to multi modal paths along Buena Vista Blvd. And there is is no depicted route providing access to adjacent already existing areas of The Villages such as Tamarind Grove or St Charles. Very poorly planned in my opinion.

Not accurate. The plans show a cart path through the north part of the proposed village exiting through the Tamarind Grove mail station area into that village and then to the rest of TV.

And that will make an already bad traffic situation at the TG postal station even worse.

So if a resident of this new village wanted to drive their cart over to Winn Dixie (a couple of hundred yards away) to pick up a half gallon of milk, they could go thru the Tamarind Grove postal station, over to Tamarind Grove Run, take it down to St Charles, follow it down to Buena Vista, get on the multi modal path and take the tunnel under Buena Vista, continue thru Turtle Mound exec course to the tunnel under 466A, follow the path back to Buena Vista, then turn south on the path down to Pinellas and go thru the tunnel under Buena Vista again and follow Pinellas on down for a mile or so just before it ends at 466A, turn left into the strip mall, and there you are at Winn Dixie. I stand by my opinion. Very poorly planned.

Ta Daa ! A new bridge spanning 466a ;) !

WELL SAID,:agree: this is exactly the point I have posted a few times. I knew the path would be long, but this is ridiculous. People in these homes will have to use cars to get around, or skirt the law and cross 466a at Powell or Pinellas, a potential disaster. I hope all of the parties can get together on a more sensible plan.

I am glad wildwood stood their ground and asked for some concessions from the villages. In the end both sides will give a little and we will have have 785 more homes and 1200 more people. With a population of 115,000, only concern would be another tunnel under 466a. The one by colony will be crowded enough with fruitland park residents.

I believe what "all of the parties" means is that the developers will have to decide to spend the money to build a tunnel under 466A. And they have not been doing that for convenience sake down in these parts.

An easier solution would be to lobby the city/county to allow golf carts to cross 466a at the intersection. In my opinion, there's no good argument for why carts can't cross at controlled intersections anyway.

What is a half cart?

A typo'd Golf Cart....thanks for the catch!

That is a great idea.

I learn new things every day on TOTV, so I was prepared for another.

All non-dietary of course.

Take your car....................

That is a ridiculous idea to some!

Wildwood has over 1,000 homes currently under construction that are not part of the villages by refusing to cave to the villages demands it shows other developers that they have a chance to compete. The villages may be the best in the business but that doesn't mean there aren't other very competent developers ready to step in.

We drove south down Rolling Acres and turned past a new development that folks had talked about. Not much goin' on.......few BIG houses.

No matter what, if it's a plus 55, it will be an also ran.

There are not a lot of jobs here in this area to support families.

I think that I have me figured out. I am a Villager and I support my team.

I think Wildwood shot themselves in the foot.

There are almost 500 homes going in on 472 and 1/2 mile off of hwy 301. 585 homes on 301 and 466, 770 homes ,600+ apartments and 220,000 ft of retail space on the corner of 301 and 472 (Oxford oaks development not started yet) I think theres over 100 on 301 and peppertree lane as well and thousands more in the development stage.

I understand that you're rooting for your teem as a matter of fact i beleave we're on the same team. I just don't beleave it has to be one sided.

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My understanding is that the City of Wildwood has rules and regulations that The Villages Developer could not or would not abide by. The Developer wanted to play by their rules. I am sure another builder will come along and develop the property. The taxpayers don't loose.

It is the TONE here that bothers me.

WHY should The Villages do things their way, when the Morse's way is such a proven success. We don't have sidewalks, big whoopty do.

When you are a proven success, why change?

I would rather have more of The Villages next door than anyone else.

Morse envy liveth.

Personally, I don't want that development there. They are too cheap to put a tunnel under 466A to give direct access to Pinellas and would make those residents bring their carts all the way back through the Tamarind Grove pool area, which is the most beautiful pool/postal park in TV. There are many old live oaks and beautiful landscaping, and the pool is so private. The wind rustling through there makes for a gorgeous, tranquil site. Not a house can be seen from that pool. If they rip that apart to put a golf cart path through it, I will be sorely ticked off. And they've demonstrated in the Fruitland Park area that they think nothing of taking down healthy live oaks. They could ruin that park in an afternoon, not to mention drive down housing values around there. Because Tamarind Grove Run will be inundated with traffic it was never meant to accommodate, and turning left from TGRun onto St. Charles will be more of a nightmare than it is now in the winter.

My hope is that this is a done deal and the developer will not bring it back up after the current mayor is out of office. But I fear that is not the case.

I don't understand the resentment towards those who think Wildwood did not lose anything because the Morses pulled out of the deal. The derogatory comments regarding Wildwood and it's citizens is downright rude. How about being happy to live in the villages, and just respect those who don't live here?