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If you are going to have a weapon in your home you Better get some Training and know what the Laws are! You don’t want to go to prison for manslaughter….
Like the saying goes "better to be tried by 12 than buried by 6. I agree that anyone that owns a gun should practice, but I don't know anyone that owns a gun that doesn't. As for those that want to hug the thief/burglar, if you live next to me, I will put a sign on my door saying "owner has gun and enjoys practice. The guy next door is anti-gun."
I once responded to a call of a burglary in progress that was a fast 15 min drive with lights and siren. Then the dispatcher called and said that the neighbors caught the guy and were beating the ***** out of him. I slowed down to a safe speed so that I wouldn't accidentally kill someone in my hurry. Obviously, the situation was under control.
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Our alarm chimes whenever the garage (or any exterior) door opens, whether the alarm is on or not, and I sleep with a shotgun under the bed. Mr. Willbanks is very lucky he didn't pick my house.
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Like the saying goes "better to be tried by 12 than buried by 6. I agree that anyone that owns a gun should practice, but I don't know anyone that owns a gun that doesn't. As for those that want to hug the thief/burglar, if you live next to me, I will put a sign on my door saying "owner has gun and enjoys practice. The guy next door is anti-gun."
I once responded to a call of a burglary in progress that was a fast 15 min drive with lights and siren. Then the dispatcher called and said that the neighbors caught the guy and were beating the ***** out of him. I slowed down to a safe speed so that I wouldn't accidentally kill someone in my hurry. Obviously, the situation was under control.
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It’s interesting....the header on your post is “Your crazy”?!

Feel free to read...or reread my posts on this topic. Everything I stated is in line with FL law. I gave my opinion on how I operate...nowhere will you find a post where I tell anyone to do anything other than meet that threshold. Know the law and be updated and proficient in use of a firearm. Period

The funny part of this whole thread is many of these posters are the same ones that complain about their ‘neighbors’ driving practices on MMP and roundabouts....which are wide open spaces, yet advocate and trust their abilities to use deadly force in a much more stressful and intimately closed spaces with a ‘shoot first ask questions later’ marching orders. Somehow I missed that line item in the legislation. Comical. Note to Developer, please reinstate the Octogenarian Comedy Open Mic Night at any of your squares! This stuff is gold!
I seem to remember someone posting about once you start tossing out insults, you're lost the argument...
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Old 08-17-2024, 09:47 PM
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I seem to remember someone posting about once you start tossing out insults, you're lost the argument...
I know I wasn’t the author of that statement....I believe that belongs to post #54.

That said, if by ‘insult’ you mean following FL law and more importantly, being proficient in firearm training and usage?......To quote the great philosopher Conor McGregor “I’d like to apologize....to absolutely no one”!!
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You know the old saying---You don't need a gun, till you need a gun. Then it's too late.
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I've been robbed at night while in my home before. I started running after the young idiots to try to get them to take the money and leave the cards, but I didn't get through to them. I certainly would NEVER think it would warrant killing them.
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Like the saying goes "better to be tried by 12 than buried by 6. I agree that anyone that owns a gun should practice, but I don't know anyone that owns a gun that doesn't. As for those that want to hug the thief/burglar, if you live next to me, I will put a sign on my door saying "owner has gun and enjoys practice. The guy next door is anti-gun."
I once responded to a call of a burglary in progress that was a fast 15 min drive with lights and siren. Then the dispatcher called and said that the neighbors caught the guy and were beating the ***** out of him. I slowed down to a safe speed so that I wouldn't accidentally kill someone in my hurry. Obviously, the situation was under control.
Great post!

It does (in an indirect way) point out a very definite problem regarding crime in The Villages and its increase--and let's not kid ourselves, it WILL increase. Villagers are by and large very law-abiding folks, but those apartment buildings we see springing up like mushrooms are not built to house Villagers but to house the people who work in and for The Villages: younger folks, from a variety of life backgrounds, and many with children of their own. Such a demographic will, by its very nature, have more crime than a bunch of a group of 150,000 older folks and retirees.

We're very lucky here in TV with the level and quality of law enforcement that we have: things that get routinely reported here as crimes, and followed up on by law enforcement, would probably be met with a loud guffaw if reported as crimes in the areas that many of us hail from. We see story after story after story in The Online Paper That Shall Not Be Named, of law enforcement chasing down and apprehending thieves who have taken what in many (most?) other states would be considered paltry sums; shoplifters who have taken maybe $100 worth of merchandise for example. Many stories of people being stopped for minor traffic infractions such as stopping at a stop sign with the front of their car over the thick white line, vehicle windows with too heavy a tint, improper turns, things like that, which are often followed by a K-9 being called which "alerts" to the possibility of drugs, which are then found in the vehicle. The cops obviously know who the troublemakers are and do an excellent job of keeping the pressure on them. But all too often such police work is negated by a criminal justice system that slaps the miscreants on the wrist (if even that) and sends them on their way. The rap sheets of some of these characters fill pages! In other words, such crime carries very little risk, and even if caught the penalty is really nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

The question is, will policing TV and surrounding areas continue to be adequate in dealing with an influx of crime that is sure to come? I hope so. But if not, will things escalate to a point where law-abiding folks will take matters into their own hands and "beat the ****"" out of miscreants who have obviously not had it beaten out of them during previous times and misadventures?

Let's hope not.
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Old 08-18-2024, 10:16 AM
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Great post!

It does (in an indirect way) point out a very definite problem regarding crime in The Villages and its increase--and let's not kid ourselves, it WILL increase. Villagers are by and large very law-abiding folks, but those apartment buildings we see springing up like mushrooms are not built to house Villagers but to house the people who work in and for The Villages: younger folks, from a variety of life backgrounds, and many with children of their own. Such a demographic will, by its very nature, have more crime than a bunch of a group of 150,000 older folks and retirees.

We're very lucky here in TV with the level and quality of law enforcement that we have: things that get routinely reported here as crimes, and followed up on by law enforcement, would probably be met with a loud guffaw if reported as crimes in the areas that many of us hail from. We see story after story after story in The Online Paper That Shall Not Be Named, of law enforcement chasing down and apprehending thieves who have taken what in many (most?) other states would be considered paltry sums; shoplifters who have taken maybe $100 worth of merchandise for example. Many stories of people being stopped for minor traffic infractions such as stopping at a stop sign with the front of their car over the thick white line, vehicle windows with too heavy a tint, improper turns, things like that, which are often followed by a K-9 being called which "alerts" to the possibility of drugs, which are then found in the vehicle. The cops obviously know who the troublemakers are and do an excellent job of keeping the pressure on them. But all too often such police work is negated by a criminal justice system that slaps the miscreants on the wrist (if even that) and sends them on their way. The rap sheets of some of these characters fill pages! In other words, such crime carries very little risk, and even if caught the penalty is really nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

The question is, will policing TV and surrounding areas continue to be adequate in dealing with an influx of crime that is sure to come? I hope so. But if not, will things escalate to a point where law-abiding folks will take matters into their own hands and "beat the ****"" out of miscreants who have obviously not had it beaten out of them during previous times and misadventures?

Let's hope not.
Wow! So we finally have a breach in friendly town....the welcome mat for Middleton already being soiled!

Middleton, which is what is being referenced, is being developed to recruit and retain families who’s parents are in the unenviable position of servicing the larger (and IN SOME CASES insufferable) Villager population. And an affordable option to put a roof over their families heads in accomplishing that goal. I love the developers vision and acumen...realizing the need to sustain his investment by welcoming a whole new demo to his portfolio. The only thing I agree with in this post is that crime is inevitable.
Maybe management will give prospective Middleton residents the same litmus test that they gave to the other 55+ fear monger population upon arrival! SMH
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Old 08-18-2024, 11:53 AM
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Amen.. Great idea. Not sure why some people seem entitled/obligated to execute an intruder for stealing their $500 TV.

I get the heightened sense of violation...I have had my car and my apartment broke into. The thief has certainly have earned the right to be prosecuted...but to kill somebody for stealing a TV,? an iPhone?.

Alarms are a great way to go. Most burglars run when the dog barks or the alarm goes off. Unless you have drugs, jewelry, guns or a WHOLE lot of money in the house (see drugs above) most thieves are satisfied stealing your AMAZON packages.

I despise/hate thieves--but the punishment for Petit Theft is NOT the death penalty.
How can you know what the robber is up to? The actor recently shot dead by a thief stealing the catalytic converter on his vehicle comes to mind
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If you do some internet research, you will find that if that a criminal breaks into a home that he knows or suspects is occupied, is more likely to severely injure or kill the home owner. They actually hope someone is there, they want to hurt you. Don't judge criminals by your morals and conscience, they don't have any morals or a conscience.
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Wow! So we finally have a breach in friendly town....the welcome mat for Middleton already being soiled!

Middleton, which is what is being referenced, is being developed to recruit and retain families who’s parents are in the unenviable position of servicing the larger (and IN SOME CASES insufferable) Villager population. And an affordable option to put a roof over their families heads in accomplishing that goal. I love the developers vision and acumen...realizing the need to sustain his investment by welcoming a whole new demo to his portfolio. The only thing I agree with in this post is that crime is inevitable.
Maybe management will give prospective Middleton residents the same litmus test that they gave to the other 55+ fear monger population upon arrival! SMH
Are there apartment buildings in Middleton?
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Are there apartment buildings in Middleton?
There wasn’t anything mentioned about apartments in any of the Villages flyers. The closest apartments are the ones going up on the 39 acres across from Dabney right? That area has to be a good 3 miles from there. There is another section on Marshbend Trail that is not a part of the Villages too?
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There wasn’t anything mentioned about apartments in any of the Villages flyers. The closest apartments are the ones going up on the 39 acres across from Dabney right? That area has to be a good 3 miles from there. There is another section on Marshbend Trail that is not a part of the Villages too?
There are apartments near Brownwood called "The Lofts". This facility is located within The Villages and the residents are actual Villagers.
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