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They have the right to use, but not to block it. Anymore than a group of walkers could walk ten abreast and not permit others to go by.
If they were riding single file, you would be wrong...
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Old 02-27-2022, 02:26 PM
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Could they pull off the path for a minute to let the backed up carts go by???
That would have been polite, but not required...
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Wasn’t this covered in detail on 2 plus previous threads??
Only two?
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The only possibility under any circumstances is there was a tremendous amount of oncoming traffic which made it unsafe to pass. If that is the case, which I doubt, then it was unsafe to pass. It is not any cyclist, slower moving cart, loaded four passenger carts, or anything that is legally operating on the MMP, that is not traveling at the speed the OP wants to travel at, problem or obligation to pull off the path for anyone to pass. This is exactly the same as allowing an irrational driver to pass me in a bumper to bumper traffic jam.
Not their obligation, but it would be the courteous thing to do. If we believe the story, it was not just the speed the OP wanted to go, it was the speed 40 other drivers wanted. If someone is on a 2 lane road with a double yellow line and is travelling at 30 mph in a 55 zone, they are not obligated to pull over and let others pass, but if they don't they are *****(fill in whatever you choose). Just because a trike has the right to ride 5 (or 8 or 10 or whatever) mph on the MMP, doesn't mean they have to shove that right down everyone else's throat.

PS: You might not like letting an "irrational" driver pass, but it's usually a good idea----far better they are ahead of you than behind or along side.
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Widen all the MMPs to three lane with an alternating passing lane.
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Here's the difference between you and I on this matter. ....
I assure you, there are several more differences. But, since you've made up you mind and aren't going to let facts change it, I guess I'm done.
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Every day I watch them blow through stop signs.
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I can't believe that's have to explain this to an adult.
When you've appointed yourself the Rule Maker & King of the Paths, how is anyone else to know the rules you've made up, unless you spread the word?

Do you have a podcast or anything, where folks can tune in and hear your new mandates and perhaps ask you questions?
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Widen all the MMPs to three lane with an alternating passing lane.
WHOA!!!!! Then 2 oncoming carts choose to pass in that third lane at the same time?! I think a whole different smaller lanes for bikes/pedestrians where possible.
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Every day I watch them blow through stop signs.
Bikes are not the only vehicles doing that. I often see cars even go through red lights!!! Yikes
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Bikes are not the only vehicles doing that. I often see cars even go through red lights!!! Yikes
But have you ever seen a pack of 20 cars blow through a stop sign as if they were one entity???
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They can and should take the entire lane and walkers should as well.

If a cyclist rides towards the right in the MMP then carts will "share the lane". That is extremely dangerous for the cyclist. Cart drivers can and do force cyclists off the path. If you are in such a rush to pass (an emergency) pass on the grass. All golf carts are designed to do this, most bicycles on the MMPs here are not.

Replace MMP with a two lane public road, carts for cars, and bicycle or ebike for motorcycle.

At anytime in your LIFETIME have you intentionally shared a lane with a motorcycle? What about a 150cc motorcycle (very small, not powerful but road legal)? No, you have not. For exactly the same reason you, as a cart driver should NEVER share a lane with a cyclist. If it is not safe to pass then you follow the cyclist until it is safe to do so. It's pretty simple. Your privilege of operating a cart on a mmp IS NOT SUPERIOR to a cyclist, never.

I can't believe that's have to explain this to an adult.
Funny how people feel no one is as important as they are. My son farms. He could back traffic on roads as far as you can see. He pulls over and lets the cars and trucks go by when they start to back up. It's called being courteous. But there are those that feel no one is as important or as privileged as they are. Just because one person is not on a timeline doesn't mean everyone has to be on their timeline. I Can't believe that this has to be explained to an adult.
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