[stanley]

Are cyclists supposed to ride single file?

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Found this...don't know if this link was posted....don't want to go through the whole thread

Info for Group Riding | Florida Bicycle Association.

[Toymeister]

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[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

Just to be clear, I wasn't questioning the LAW, (which is no reason to throw out courtesy and common sense...) I said it would be NICE if e-bikes used the diamond lanes when available. Especially in the southern sections with the extensive pedestrian paths (sidewalks) and separate diamond lanes for 20 mph vehicles like golf carts.

No doubt an ebike doing 20+ on a sidewalk would do some damage hitting a pedestrian.

There is a whole lot of room of improvement on both sides.

First let's assume that no one petitions, successfully, to forbid ebikes from the pedestrian paths or change the recent state law which allows ebikes on those paths.

Walkers: walk on one side of the path. Be aware of your surroundings, yes that means get off your phone and do not use ear buds. Listen for the cyclist warning you of their approach. That may be verbal or a bell ringing. Acknowledge that you hear it (a hand wave). Keep your dog on a reasonable length lead, no one wants to hurt a dog or get a bite. Male walkers, get your hearing checked and treated.

Bikers: signal your approach, treat everyone as a blind deaf walker.

In my experience 50 to 70% of male walkers don't hear the frantic bell ringing behind them. Either they are deaf or think the ice cream man is coming. Women are much more likely to hear you if they aren't talking on the phone or listening to music. Most people appreciate the warning if they hear it.

We can all get along!

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Walkers: walk on one side of the path. Be aware of your surroundings, yes that means get off your phone and do not use ear buds. Listen for the cyclist warning you of their approach. That may be verbal or a bell ringing.

Bikers: signal your approach, treat everyone as a blind deaf walker.

If walkers are supposed to walk against traffic, and cyclists are supposed to ride with the traffic, the walker would see the cyclist, and vise versa...no?

[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by stanley

If walkers are supposed to walk against traffic, and cyclists are supposed to ride with the traffic, the walker would see the cyclist, and vise versa...no?

This is addressing a comment about pedestrian paths. There is no
"traffic" on pedestrian paths.

No you don't ride head on to every walker, you ride with them, on the same side of the path

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

This is addressing a comment about pedestrian paths. There is no
"traffic" on pedestrian paths.

No you don't ride head on to every walker, you ride with them, on the same side of the path

So pedestrian paths are all one way?
Just asking

[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by stanley

So pedestrian paths are all one way?
Just asking

Pedestrian paths are common in the newest sections, they accommodate two way pedestrian s. The carts move on a diamond lane next to the car lane. The pedestrian lane and cart lanes merge into one at numerous points, at tunnels and bridges.

Bicycles have a choice, they can be on the pedestrian lane or the diamond lane. At many points walkers also have a choice. In either lane someone thinks cyclists are a nuisance and shouldn't be there but in the other lane. Carts don't like following you until they pass and as demonstrated here, and walkers think you are in "their" path.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Pedestrian paths are common in the newest sections, they accommodate two way pedestrian s. The carts move on a diamond lane next to the car lane. The pedestrian lane and cart lanes merge into one at numerous points, at tunnels and bridges.

Bicycles have a choice, they can be on the pedestrian lane or the diamond lane. At many points walkers also have a choice. In either lane someone thinks cyclists are a nuisance and shouldn't be there but in the other lane. Carts don't like following you until they pass and as demonstrated here, and walkers think you are in "their" path.

Thanks. I would have to see it to understand it

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

Why would you clip into pedals if it's dangerous? Sounds like an unsafe practice.

It allows you to apply power to the pedals throughout the cycle—not just the downstroke.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by toeser

Bikers should push the legislature to adopt the "Idaho Stop" law. It allows bikers to safely treat stop signs as yield signs.

I agree. Bikers already treat stop signs as yield signs. Unfortunately, they also treat yield signs as if they aren't there, especially if entering a RB as a pack.

If a motorist traveling in a RB plows into a pack of cyclists who have blown through the yield sign, who is to blame????

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

If a motorist traveling in a RB plows into a pack of cyclists who have blown through the yield sign, who is to blame????

The bikers.

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I agree. Bikers already treat stop signs as yield signs. Unfortunately, they also treat yield signs as if they aren't there, especially if entering a RB as a pack.

If a motorist traveling in a RB plows into a pack of cyclists who have blown through the yield sign, who is to blame????

The motorist has right of way

But it can definitely be confusing when a big group of cyclists is going into a traffic circle and must split because of a car. Confusing on both sides!

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

But it can definitely be confusing when a big group of cyclists is going into a traffic circle and must split because of a car. Confusing on both sides!

I drive slowly thru the roundabouts with my hand ready to press on the horn. I often give a long honk at people. One time I had to honk at two people in the same roundabout.

However, if I were doing a 3/4 turn in a roundabout and saw a group of bikers coming thru, I would definitely stop for them.

In our case, we love to ride our bikes but we do not do it anywhere north of Route 44. We go down to St. Catherine or Marsh Bend to ride on the beautiful trails that do not allow golf carts.

[bobdeb]

I was an avid runner and bicyclist in northern New England. Lots of fantastic hills. Remember those? So, please, I do know the appeal and benefits therein.

We rode a bit down here until my wife had an awful accident riding through a Village's tunnel. Major surgery and rehab followed.

Now I look upon bicyclists and sans helmet motorcycle riders much the same as do physicians. And that is as potential organ donors.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Where I come from, bicycles aren't supposed to ride on the sidewalks (other than kids on kiddie trikes or with training wheels who are still learning how to ride, in front of their own houses). If you want to ride a 2-wheeled bike, you're supposed to ride it in the road. I'd never ride a bike on a *pedestrian* path. The only "vehicle" that should be allowed on a *pedestrian* path would be your feet, roller skates, a wheelchair (manual or electric), one of those neat knee-scooters for people with a bad leg, maybe a skateboard. Whether that's the rule or not, I don't know. But that's what it should be.